Question about the Era, actually.

[Lengua Muerta]

So, I've just recently found out there are both Prussian Schuetzen [Schützen] and Jaegers. As far as I know, or as I understand it, they're basically the same troop; both performing skirmish tactics and having a Jaeger Rifle as equipment.
I ask: What's the difference between them in-game, beside the uniform, of course?

I've also discovered that there are no Medals for Prussia? What about the Pour le Mérite?

Question: does anybody has any info about conscription in Prussia during and before this era? Anything from 1750's to 1800's perhaps?

Thanks for yer time, and sorry for being a nuisance.

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PS: I feel silly by creating a new topic to just ask this, but I didn't really know where to ask [if in the University, the Tavern.. ]. Sorry.

 

[Quintillius]

Prussian Jaegers are far better than Schuetzen ingame.

I've also discovered that there are no Medals for Prussia? What about the Pour le Mérite?

Prussian medals are standard. So every nation except Russia, Great Britain, France, Montenegro and Austria does have these medals.

3rd - Pour le Merite

is after 2nd - Order of the Red Eagle and 1st - Order of the Black Eagle the best medal you can gain.

Question: does anybody has any info about conscription in Prussia during and before this era? Anything from 1750's to 1800's perhaps?

Ouch. You need Captured Joe for this or any other man specialized in this era.

Thanks for yer time, and sorry for being a nuisance.

Oh, you're absolutely not a nuisance.

 

[Captured Joe]

Question: does anybody has any info about conscription in Prussia during and before this era? Anything from 1750's to 1800's perhaps?

Ouch. You need Captured Joe for this or any other man specialized in this era.

Thank you. I'm not a specialist on this, but I know Prussia conscripted people from its territories since Frederick the Great (who enlisted soldiers form conquered regions into new special regiments); A good portion of the army consisted of professional soldiers (according to Peter Hofschröer at least), who were confusingly called "auslander", making historians think the Prussian army had many mercenaries, while in fact (again, according to Hofschröer) they were professional soldiers from different parts of Prussia, not foreign troops.
Their conscription was never as thorough as the French ones since the revolution, though. At least not before 1813.

 

[Lengua Muerta]

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Question: does anybody has any info about conscription in Prussia during and before this era? Anything from 1750's to 1800's perhaps?

Ouch. You need Captured Joe for this or any other man specialized in this era.

Thank you. I'm not a specialist on this, but I know Prussia conscripted people from its territories since Frederick the Great (who enlisted soldiers form conquered regions into new special regiments); A good portion of the army consisted of professional soldiers (according to Peter Hofschröer at least), who were confusingly called "auslander", making historians think the Prussian army had many mercenaries, while in fact (again, according to Hofschröer) they were professional soldiers from different parts of Prussia, not foreign troops.
Their conscription was never as thorough as the French ones since the revolution, though. At least not before 1813.

Yeah, I read somthing like that somewhere. I was too sleepy to pay attention, but I do remember that Prussia did not something about its army - not until the 4th Coalition.
I ask all of this because I'm doing some research for some silly things I've been working on for some time [some, some, some!]. Thank you very much, guys!

 

[Lengua Muerta]

Sorry fo the double post, but I hought it was better keep asking here rather than creating a lot of spam threads.

So now I know a little about the Prussian army during those times. Thanks to Joe, now I know the Prussian army was composed of veterans from all around the country, who made the army bad-ass, but the reforms halted after Frederick's demise [fast recap FTW]. Since then, the army started to "fell behind" in comparison of the rest of Europe powers'.
I'm still kinda confused, though.

Now, I ask [again ]: explosive shells. Any info on that? I just don't trust whatever I find on the internet.

Whatever you do to throw some light into my troubles, thanks in advance!

 

[Captured Joe]

Thanks to Joe, now I know the Prussian army was composed of veterans from all around the country, who made the army bad-ass, but the reforms halted after Frederick's demise [fast recap FTW]. Since then, the army started to "fell behind" in comparison of the rest of Europe powers'.

They were professional soldiers, not always veterans. But they fought well, yeah.

Now, I ask [again ]: explosive shells. Any info on that? I just don't trust whatever I find on the internet.

Whatever you do to throw some light into my troubles, thanks in advance!

I know very little about that, but it seems artillery was able to shoot explosive shells already. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwVqlSKjJGc&t=20m51s
Apparently they were hollow metal shells, who should burst apart upon exploding, sending flying fragments in all directions.

 

[Lengua Muerta]

Thank ye very much, Joe! Will certainly watch.

And sorry for being asking lots o' things. I have always liked History, specially the Rome, Medieval, American Revolution, Napoleonic, American Colonies' Revolution, WWI and WWII eras; but I never knew too much about them because there are no History books in my house but those that are a somewhat boring encyclopedia which only tells you highlights about the events ocurred in those times. Of course there's the internet, but whenever I search something I end up with a couple of "good" webpages that contradic eachother, and I don't know who to believe. The closest library is about 2hrs away, but it's completely not free

Anyway, thanks for helping me out with this.

 

[Kendoman]

Now, I ask [again ]: explosive shells. Any info on that? I just don't trust whatever I find on the internet.
Whatever you do to throw some light into my troubles, thanks in advance!
I know very little about that, but it seems artillery was able to shoot explosive shells already. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwVqlSKjJGc&t=20m51s
Apparently they were hollow metal shells, who should burst apart upon exploding, sending flying fragments in all directions

Major General Henry Shrapnel,  was a British Army officer and inventor, most famously, of the "shrapnel shell".
called "spherical case" ammunition: a hollow cannon ball filled with lead shot that burst in mid-air. In 1803, the British Army adopted a similar but elongated explosive shell which immediately acquired the inventor's name: the shrapnel shell.  Used to great effect at Vimero.  Wellington was trying hard to keep the invention a secret, but I guess he wasn't successful.

 

[Lengua Muerta]

Major General Henry Shrapnel,  was a British Army officer and inventor, most famously, of the "shrapnel shell".
called "spherical case" ammunition: a hollow cannon ball filled with lead shot that burst in mid-air. In 1803, the British Army adopted a similar but elongated explosive shell which immediately acquired the inventor's name: the shrapnel shell.  Used to great effect at Vimero.  Wellington was trying hard to keep the invention a secret, but I guess he wasn't successful.

I see. Do you have any info of explosive shells around the 1790's? Or it was completely a secret/not considered in those times? Could several nations have their own experiments on a explosive shell or it was just a invention from X nation which was adopted then by te others?
Thanks in advance!

 

[Patchouli Knowledge]

Explosive shell first shows up in Europe in the 16th century, and became common in the 18th. By the Napoleonic era it was standard in every army. As for who invented it, I guess that credit goes to the Chinese.

 

[Kendoman]

I think Docm30 is on the right track.  Shrapnel invented what he called spherical case shot and introduced it in 1803.  The British did seem to have an early advantage in this invention, but historical sources can be so ethnocentric.
Here's an interesting snipet:
"After the battle of Vimiera In 1808, Napoleon ordered all unexploded British shells to be collected and taken apart to find out how they worked. They never did get to the bottom of Shrapnel’s weapon and its brutal efficiency played a crucial role in finishing Napoleon at Waterloo.
Wellington’s gunnery commander Colonel Robe said, "no fire could be more murderous." French soldiers were so frightened by the casualties that they were often taken prisoner lying down. Rumours spread that the British had poisoned the cannon balls."

 

[Lengua Muerta]

Explosive shell first shows up in Europe in the 16th century, and became common in the 18th. By the Napoleonic era it was standard in every army. As for who invented it, I guess that credit goes to the Chinese.

I think Docm30 is on the right track.  Shrapnel invented what he called spherical case shot and introduced it in 1803.  The British did seem to have an early advantage in this invention, but historical sources can be so ethnocentric.
Here's an interesting snipet:
"After the battle of Vimiera In 1808, Napoleon ordered all unexploded British shells to be collected and taken apart to find out how they worked. They never did get to the bottom of Shrapnel’s weapon and its brutal efficiency played a crucial role in finishing Napoleon at Waterloo.
Wellington’s gunnery commander Colonel Robe said, "no fire could be more murderous." French soldiers were so frightened by the casualties that they were often taken prisoner lying down. Rumours spread that the British had poisoned the cannon balls."

Thanks Doc! Thanks Kendoman! Really apreciate it.
Now I'll continue my little evil research.