North American Player Ratings (New Fun Poll Up!)
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EPIC duel for spot on the list
Lmao wtfCheezeninja said:
lmao sigi got destroyed
Thats some 200 iq stuffRoberta_Baratheon said:
Kelquethas said:
Made some changes since first post:
- Added Nikkle to the All Time Infantry list and removed Craven.
- Changed Nikkle, Gibby, Rempica, Guaccmoleboy, Yoshie, Abellard on the 2018-2019 Infantry list.
- Removed Foreigner's team and replaced with North American combined team. Added Can (USA via Turkey) and Lagstro (USA via Mexico) to that team in their respective spots.
- Added Cradoc to the All Time Infantry list. Moved Tyrian and Joe to the bottom of the All Time Infantry list.
- Added Thunderbeu to the Canadian Dream Team roster.
- Removed Greenknight from the Canadian Dream Team roster and replaced with Yoshie.
After consulting with many players NASS, WMT, WMC, Mole's Toll's, WFL, Scramble League and any tournament pre UNAC S1 will not count as a major tournament. The general lack of organization, poor statistic records, lack of competitiveness, and major players and teams skipping these tournaments make the results inconclusive in determining player skill. If you'd like to make a formal argument to add one of these tournaments for consideration in my list you can do so on the forums rather than on Steam please. Also players make these lists based on their battle ability, not 1v1 skill. This shouldn't need to be stated but simply being better than a player in a 1v1 does not mean it applies to being better than them as a player. Many of these players offer additional help in the form of calling and decision making.
- Added Nikkle to the All Time Infantry list and removed Craven.
- Changed Nikkle, Gibby, Rempica, Guaccmoleboy, Yoshie, Abellard on the 2018-2019 Infantry list.
- Removed Foreigner's team and replaced with North American combined team. Added Can (USA via Turkey) and Lagstro (USA via Mexico) to that team in their respective spots.
- Added Cradoc to the All Time Infantry list. Moved Tyrian and Joe to the bottom of the All Time Infantry list.
- Added Thunderbeu to the Canadian Dream Team roster.
- Removed Greenknight from the Canadian Dream Team roster and replaced with Yoshie.
After consulting with many players NASS, WMT, WMC, Mole's Toll's, WFL, Scramble League and any tournament pre UNAC S1 will not count as a major tournament. The general lack of organization, poor statistic records, lack of competitiveness, and major players and teams skipping these tournaments make the results inconclusive in determining player skill. If you'd like to make a formal argument to add one of these tournaments for consideration in my list you can do so on the forums rather than on Steam please. Also players make these lists based on their battle ability, not 1v1 skill. This shouldn't need to be stated but simply being better than a player in a 1v1 does not mean it applies to being better than them as a player. Many of these players offer additional help in the form of calling and decision making.
BIT, CJTT, NASTe seasons 1 and 2, KBooB, and KTiT were pre-UNAC. Well-documented, organized, competitive, and had major players.
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,154586.0.html
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,169650.0.html
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,194970.0.html
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,238001.0.html
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,256866.0.html
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,154586.0.html
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,169650.0.html
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,194970.0.html
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,238001.0.html
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,256866.0.html
Fehnor said:
I think what Rob meant was that he wants to see screenshots that contain personal stats. Looking through those threads, none of them have any screenshots. The only thing those threads could tell you are what teams were the best at the time, and at most you could assume that the individuals on the best teams were generally some of the best players, but then how would you go about ranking them without there being any data to go by?
Basically, Rob would have to rely solely on old players' word on who the best players were back then and how to rank them, because there's no actual hard data to corroborate any claims made by them.
There's probably some old streams/recordings he could use, but even those would only provide at most like 10% of pre-UNAC stats.
John7 said:
We did that with the old list and I really think it was poorly done. I prefer the stat backed list. Granted it doesn't help with multi-classers but I did the best I could with the data I have. I also think infantry and cav from pre-UNAC S2 were significantly different players and much weaker talent wise. The level of gameplay in those old streams is what we would equate with low tier teams today.
Fehnor said:
NASTe S1 was also the first tournament with any sort of stat-tracking. Admittedly, it was only barebones kills & deaths, but it clearly shows that KissMyAxe achieved a negative KD ratio which was also a first for the competitive scene.
I like that something awoke Fehnor from his slumber.
We all lost after reading that.
Orion said:
Fehnor said:
Ayyy, Fehnor still doing God's work. He led the streaming effort before there was a streaming effort.
P.S.
Oodle was an absolute gentleman when he was in wK. Maybe you guys just need to stop ****ing up
P.P.S.
I got physically hurt being reminded of this
Great list. Just sad that Deafening didn't get an honorable mention.
Edit: Just saw this: "KoB blowing an easy 3-0 set over wK by dying on the flag with seconds left"
The pain. It hurts.
Edit: Just saw this: "KoB blowing an easy 3-0 set over wK by dying on the flag with seconds left"
The pain. It hurts.
