[NC2019] Playoffs Week
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Agreed - luckily im smart enough to inform myself about stuff (i.e. recordings) before forming an opinion. Thanks for your input though.KaneMaB said:
HKP said:
The problem here is that you inferred that if I do not tell you, I am trying to screw you over. I believe I was clear to the Argentinan team captain that the Miami server was an option if it makes pings more equal for both teams. At the time, I was under the impression that Germany would get 130 ping across the board with Firunien at 170 (keep in mind he has 70 ping on German (!!) servers). I have at no point said that we will force Germany to play on Miami, so the exaggerated responses on this thread and my steam chat are hardly reasonable.
HKP said:
You've been around long enough to know that the Nation's Cup is not a purely EU-oriented tournament. If that were the case, NA would be playing 4 sets on London for all their matches.
I was told we're being forced to play on miami server - during our scrim against FRA the other day we were discussing a little bit with tardet since he was there and he also thought that this was the case (Atleast from my understanding). Looking at the post he made in this thread it's the same. Even now apparently its not quite sure what server we'll end up playing on. I don't have you on steam so no idea what you're referring to.
Yep, when we discussed on the server on Wednesday, I was also under the impression that Miami was the server the match would happen on, taken from my discussions with Watly. I only realised at the time that you guys discovered the pings in that same evening and that you had not been informed about it whatsoever prior to that, which, as posted in my message on this thread afterwards, didn't really seem fair.
The main issue is that between what people tell us and what the reality is on the server, there is often a gap, important or not and it's not always easy to gather all the players involved in a match beforehand to check it and take an informed decision.
We have been discussing it among ourselves, I had a talk with both LaPache and Bunny about the whole situation (I just talked with LP again this morning) and we will let you know tonight at the latest how your match will happen. Until then, I would just put the whole argument to rest as pretty much everything has been said on both sides.
The main issue is that between what people tell us and what the reality is on the server, there is often a gap, important or not and it's not always easy to gather all the players involved in a match beforehand to check it and take an informed decision.
We have been discussing it among ourselves, I had a talk with both LaPache and Bunny about the whole situation (I just talked with LP again this morning) and we will let you know tonight at the latest how your match will happen. Until then, I would just put the whole argument to rest as pretty much everything has been said on both sides.
I'll prolly be stremaing the China match tomorrow at 14gmt
Unable to stream the China match, my apologies
Well-played Poland for making it through to the next stage of the playoffs and commiserations to China which still had a good first tournament.
I personally wouldn't want it to become a standard. I understand the NC has traditionally been a tournament more welcoming towards teams outside of the EU region and I'm happy it has continued to be that way for this edition it but I fear that encouraging both the Asian and the EU communities to play clan tournaments together, with between 110 to 130 ping across the board for most players, might be to the detriment of competitiveness. Sure, it also presents a ton of advantages such as bringing communities together, allowing top teams from each side to face each other and increasing the general activity, but I don't see it as a worthy trade all things considered. In my eyes, the warband we play remains a competitive game and for that, the conditions in which we play must remain acceptable so that randomness and luck don't become prominent factors in the match results. I wouldn't mind having a tournament solely designed for that purpose, however, just to try it out.
Now obviously, I can accept the fact many people see things directly, especially with the current state of the community and at least this tournament served as a good experiment to test new server options and help some people acknowledging that the ping you see and what you feel on the server isn't exactly the same thing.
Watly said:
I personally wouldn't want it to become a standard. I understand the NC has traditionally been a tournament more welcoming towards teams outside of the EU region and I'm happy it has continued to be that way for this edition it but I fear that encouraging both the Asian and the EU communities to play clan tournaments together, with between 110 to 130 ping across the board for most players, might be to the detriment of competitiveness. Sure, it also presents a ton of advantages such as bringing communities together, allowing top teams from each side to face each other and increasing the general activity, but I don't see it as a worthy trade all things considered. In my eyes, the warband we play remains a competitive game and for that, the conditions in which we play must remain acceptable so that randomness and luck don't become prominent factors in the match results. I wouldn't mind having a tournament solely designed for that purpose, however, just to try it out.
Now obviously, I can accept the fact many people see things directly, especially with the current state of the community and at least this tournament served as a good experiment to test new server options and help some people acknowledging that the ping you see and what you feel on the server isn't exactly the same thing.
Marquis de Montalban said:
Bro no. Germany would absolutely **** on that team. They will win even if they did use these servers they are just being typical Europeans and complaining about everything. HKP and Firunien have both played extensively with high ping and done outstanding. Firunien has played for me with 180 ping in tournaments.
Sorted out.
Sorted out.
you guys are utter retards ngl
you signed up agreeing to play on NY servers at the beginning
now you cry about your ping being too high and go around our back and try to get a better server. If you had talked to us we could've figured something out that's fine for both partys.
pathetic sportsmanship
you signed up agreeing to play on NY servers at the beginning
now you cry about your ping being too high and go around our back and try to get a better server. If you had talked to us we could've figured something out that's fine for both partys.
pathetic sportsmanship
Germany 12 - 2 Argentina 3
gg, well played both teams!
gg, well played both teams!
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