Medieval Georgia?

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As I was reading along in some such things, I found mention of Medieval Georgia. To me, it looked pretty interesting mix of europe, russia, and the middle east, but to my disappointment, despite all my searching, it is very difficult to find much anything about this place. Since there are about two sixty-page books in my library about this, and google was not being of much service in bringing me websites with any information or in a language I could read, I'm now here and asking:
Anything about this kingdom? Books (Hopefully in English) or just links to other websites?

Oh, and to be clear, I'm not speaking of armenia, there's quite a bit on that. (Even though I've heard they're quite similar)

 

[matmohair1]

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http://****-k.narod.ru/Historical_Arts/Saracens/Saracens_07.jpg
http://****-k.narod.ru/Historical_Arts/Army_of_Timur/Army_of_Timur_06.jpg

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http://****-k.narod.ru/Historical_Arts/Kulikovskaya_Battle/Kulikovskaya_battle_east_1.jpg

http://101.imagebam.com/download/YjqcjKnSlUbBa6f2M8v-**/23322/233213578/%3F%3F%3F%3F%20%2809%29.jpg

 

[user1324865215]

Very nice as always, matmohair

 

[NikeBG]

If you need just some basic info, you can also check Wikipedia. Or you could eventually try the alternative Google search for (Caucasian)Iberians/Iverians, as they were also known with that name in the Middle Ages. And, yes, it's an extremely underrepresented country, unfortunately.

Also, I think there was at least one Georgian mod for the original M&B somewhere.

 

[Druzhina]

Georgian Illustrations
Georgian Soldiers on an Icon from Shemokmedi, 11th century

Illuminations in the 12th Century Georgian "Jruchi Gospels"

A 12th Century Georgian Fresco in Vardzia Monastery
Georgian Illuminations from the Djruchi II Four Gospels, 12-13th Centuries, (Second Tetraevangelion of Jruchi)
Georgian Psalters 13th-15th centuries:
. Georgian Psalters (H-1665), f.192v Massacre of the Priests, Women & Children of Nob by Doeg
. Georgian Psalters (H-1665), f.205r Battle of the Israelites against King Hadadezer
. Georgian Psalters (H-1665), details of Goliath's helmet from f.230r & f.230v
. Georgian Psalters (H-1665), f.233r David before King Saul.
. Georgian Psalters (H-1665), Presents to King Solomon

A Georgian cavalryman in Armies and Enemies of the Crusades 1096-1291 by Ian Heath
A Georgian 15th century enamel of St. George killing the dragon
A Georgian Soldier in Costumes anciens et modernes: habiti antichi e moderni di tutto il mondo by Cesare Vecellio, 1590s
A Georgian Foot Soldier by Melchior Lorck, 1576
Illustrations from a Georgian 17th century manuscript of The Knight in Panther's Skin

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Georgian Soldiers on an Icon from Shemokmedi, 11th century
Illuminations in the 12th Century Georgian "Jruchi Gospels"
A 12th Century Georgian Fresco in Vardzia Monastery
A Georgian cavalryman in Armies and Enemies of the Crusades 1096-1291 by Ian Heath
A Georgian 15th century enamel of St. George killing the dragon
A Georgian Soldier in Costumes anciens et modernes: habiti antichi e moderni di tutto il mondo by Cesare Vecellio, 1590s
A Georgian Foot Soldier by Melchior Lorck, 1576
Illustrations from a Georgian 17th century manuscript of The Knight in Panther's Skin
Illustrations from a Georgian 17th century manuscript of The Knight in Panther's Skin

Druzhina
Georgian Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers

 

[Allegro]

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http://****-k.narod.ru/Historical_Arts/Saracens/Saracens_07.jpg

Funny how it depicts Armenians and Georgians punishing Muslim peasants.

Also I would wager the Georgian horse archer is actually a Kipchak mercenary. Far as I know they used quiet a lot of and relied on Turkic mercenaries back then.

 

[matmohair1]

I'm not speaking of armenia, there's quite a bit on that. (Even though I've heard they're quite similar)

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[matmohair1]

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That carpet is amazing.

 

[nijis]

Great collection of images.

Note that no state in the medieval era is going to have a distinct national appearance. It's a game convention to have different visual styles for different "factions" but actual appearance seems to have been a lot more of a melting pot.

Everyone borrowed clothing styles and weapons from each other and from the great empires. So, 13th century Armenians are going to look like 13 century Georgians, Russians and Kipchaks might share a taste for sabres, lamellar, and facemask helmets, and even Byzantines are likely to sport a few turban or felt hat styles that they picked up from the Caliphate or from the steppe.

The pictures clearly bring that out, but I was just tossing that in.

 

[FrisianDude]

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http://****-k.narod.ru/Historical_Arts/Saracens/Saracens_07.jpg

Funny how it depicts Armenians and Georgians punishing Muslim peasants.

Also I would wager the Georgian horse archer is actually a Kipchak mercenary. Far as I know they used quiet a lot of and relied on Turkic mercenaries back then.

that's plate G in "Saladin and the Saracens" (Nicolle/McBride) of which I happen to own a copy. Let's see what it says;

Georgia had long been under Iranian and Islamic influence but by the thirteenth century Turkish styles were dominant. This is shown in a lightly equipped horseman who is virtually indistinguishable from his Muslim neighbours.

So probably not a Kipchak, but definitely (obviously) equipped in a Turkic style. I honestly like the infantryman getting clonked upside the head's equipment better. It just looks good without being extravagant.

 

[TheFlyingFishy]

I'm p sure medieval Georgia had a lot more Indians and corn, guys.

 

[LordOfShadows]

I'm p sure medieval Georgia had a lot more Indians and corn, guys.

You so funny...... *shoots Fishy in the head*

 

[Leonidas300]

Not so medieval, but really amazing georgian films

Bashi Achuki (about islamist invasions in the territory of 16th century if I'm not mistaken) and the second one Mamluk (about how many georgians were kidnapped to become mamluks)

These films are really popular, you must watch it and understand what they say to feel the masterpieace that these films are, otherwise you'll not like them logically xD


 

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[Allegro]

Do you know any Georgian movies that I could find English subtitles for? Prefer newer ones.

 

[Orchid]

Rayfield, Donald. Edge of Empires: A History of Georgia, 2012.
Šengelia, Kaxa. History of Georgia : from the ancient through the modern times, 2011. (transl. by Khatuna Basilashvili)
Suny, Ronald Grigor. The Making of the Georgian Nation, 1994.

Didn't find anything on the medieval period in English, only a few very specific academic articles.

 

[e27]

Also, I think there was at least one Georgian mod for the original M&B somewhere.

Found one for warband:
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,149941.msg3606123.html#msg3606123[url=http://pix.ge/

Download is a bit busted though

 

[matmohair1]

more on medieval Armenia - http://www.peopleofar.com/2013/04/27/armenian-warriors/

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[FrisianDude]

Peculiar style of work. Also the iron rims bug me. Very stylish though, most of it. The last one seems slightly out of place, so western compared to the restern.

 

[Kentucky 『 ＨＥＩＧＵＩ 』 James]

The (southern) armenians were practically another crusader state for most of the period these images are depicting. There was a fair bit of contact between them and the crusaders and their equipment was almost indistinguishable for the most part.