[ECS3] Suggestions & Questions

[Apollo ?]

Or just practice your buying?, if the idiot can't pick the right equipment *insert Fietta spear joke here* then they shouldn't be playing the game. Good players spend time picking their equipment wisely and fast.. so then newbs can just instantly get it anyways

Only thing we can agree on. Also, downloading some mod wont make you a better player and it might help you spawn in faster but I dont see that helping so much xd unless it gives you magical flying and health hacks with a hint of aimbot? I doubt half the player in the tourney would even download this anyway including me.

 

[yourNotAlone]

The speed advantage could be nullified with server side mod that would delay the spawn from everyone.

I like this idea!

 

[Silvernj]

Or just practice your buying?, if the idiot can't pick the right equipment *insert Fietta spear joke here* then they shouldn't be playing the game. Good players spend time picking their equipment wisely and fast..

So cs players are idiots?

 

[Hero_of_Ferelden]

It actually does give an advantage. This depends on the map ofc, but on Naval Outpost for example this will give a huge 1st round advantage.

 

[Apollo ?]

It actually does give an advantage. This depends on the map ofc, but on Naval Outpost for example this will give a huge 1st round advantage.

And maps like Sandi where a cav can get to the other side of the map in under 10 seconds and lance a player just spawning.

 

[Fietta]

Or just practice your buying?, if the idiot can't pick the right equipment *insert Fietta spear joke here* then they shouldn't be playing the game. Good players spend time picking their equipment wisely and fast..

So cs players are idiots?

Yes

 

[Apollo ?]

I play csgo alot, You dont need a macro to be a good player. Its not hard to select a weapon and armour and just play. Same in Warband.

 

[Alene]

I play csgo alot, You dont need a macro to be a good player. Its not hard to select a weapon and armour and just play. Same in Warband.

You should try that with my computer on some big map. You'd be surprised

 

[Apollo ?]

Yes, But you shouldent have an advantage because you have a bad PC Alene.

 

[Alene]

Was I at any point trying to get an advantage to myself?

 

[Apollo ?]

The idea of a mod that enhances your speed your able to spawn does not sound like a good idea am going to leave it at that.

 

[MaHuD]

Alene suggested a server side mod to have everyone spawn delayed, so there is enough time to select equipment for everyone. Both for people with an equipment selector and for those that do it manually.
At no point in this is Alene suggesting a personal advantage.

Speaking of CS GO... it does just that.

 

[Firunien]

I mean a football match doesn't include putting on your shoes and jersey either.

I would love to see that though ! 

The speed advantage could be nullified with server side mod that would delay the spawn from everyone.

This is a really good idea, i mean 10 seconds should be more then enough.
This would also solve the problem you have for example when u fight after round end and you cant upgrade because the next round instantly starts.
Maybe a bit late for ECS, but if the still update their adminmods on their server they should put a serious thought towards implenting it, because it improves general competitivness for battle.

I play csgo alot, You dont need a macro to be a good player. Its not hard to select a weapon and armour and just play. Same in Warband.

Dude you shot yourself in the knee with that , in CSGO you have 15 seconds before each round right ?

 

[Keller]

He only plays DM and surf I guess.

 

[Apollo ?]

He only plays DM and surf I guess.

Ofc, I dont play either of them tbh. I only play comp lel.

 

[Kragen]

This new csgo thread ? I don't play this game

 

[imemine]

This is a really good idea, i mean 10 seconds should be more then enough.
This would also solve the problem you have for example when u fight after round end and you cant upgrade because the next round instantly starts.
Maybe a bit late for ECS, but if the still update their adminmods on their server they should put a serious thought towards implenting it, because it improves general competitivness for battle.

This!

 

[Fietta]

It's useless to keep saying 'not now but maybe future' when this may be the last Warband tournament. It's now or maybe never at this point.

 

[Alene]

It's also useless to say 'now'. It's all up to the tournament admin team, and so far they have not said anything about the matter.

 

[Muzzle C]

The speed advantage could be nullified with server side mod that would delay the spawn from everyone.

I already wrote this two days back.
It's fully server side. Players spawn the same time on the first round (after map reset).
Even tho i'm not too experienced with scripts i made it to work. Here's the code, try it out.

Spoiler

In module_mission_templates.
Seek the #battle section, there's a script which handles agent spawning. In pure native should be found at line 12947.
You need to add one line into that script. Here's the full script with added line, tagged with #Delay the first spawn.

      (1, 0, 0, [],
       [
         (multiplayer_is_server),
         (get_max_players, ":num_players"),
         (try_for_range, ":player_no", 0, ":num_players"),
           (player_is_active, ":player_no"),
           (neg|player_is_busy_with_menus, ":player_no"),
           (try_begin),
             (player_slot_eq, ":player_no", slot_player_spawned_this_round, 0),

             (player_get_team_no, ":player_team", ":player_no"), #if player is currently spectator do not spawn his agent
             (lt, ":player_team", multi_team_spectator),

             (player_get_troop_id, ":player_troop", ":player_no"), #if troop is not selected do not spawn his agent
             (ge, ":player_troop", 0),

             (assign, ":spawn_new", 0), 
             (assign, ":num_active_players_in_team_0", 0),
             (assign, ":num_active_players_in_team_1", 0),
             (try_begin),
               (assign, ":num_active_players", 0),
               (get_max_players, ":num_players"),
               (try_for_range, ":player_no_2", 0, ":num_players"),
                 (player_is_active, ":player_no_2"),
                 (val_add, ":num_active_players", 1),
                 (player_get_team_no, ":player_team_2", ":player_no_2"),
                 (try_begin),
                   (eq, ":player_team_2", 0),
                   (val_add, ":num_active_players_in_team_0", 1),
                 (else_try),
                   (eq, ":player_team_2", 1),
                   (val_add, ":num_active_players_in_team_1", 1),
                 (try_end),
               (try_end),

               (store_mul, ":multipication_of_num_active_players_in_teams", ":num_active_players_in_team_0", ":num_active_players_in_team_1"),

               (store_mission_timer_a, ":round_time"),
	       #Delay the first spawn 
	       (ge, ":round_time", 16),
	       #
               (val_sub, ":round_time", "$g_round_start_time"),

               (this_or_next|lt, ":round_time", multiplayer_new_agents_finish_spawning_time),
               (this_or_next|le, ":num_active_players", 2),
               (eq, ":multipication_of_num_active_players_in_teams", 0),
         
               (eq, "$g_round_ended", 0),
               (assign, ":spawn_new", 1),
             (try_end),
             (eq, ":spawn_new", 1),
             (try_begin),
               (eq, ":player_team", 0),
               (assign, ":entry_no", multi_initial_spawn_point_team_1),
             (else_try),
               (eq, ":player_team", 1),
               (assign, ":entry_no", multi_initial_spawn_point_team_2),
             (try_end),
             (call_script, "script_multiplayer_buy_agent_equipment", ":player_no"),
             (player_spawn_new_agent, ":player_no", ":entry_no"),
             (player_set_slot, ":player_no", slot_player_spawned_this_round, 1),
           (else_try), #spawning as a bot (if option ($g_multiplayer_player_respawn_as_bot) is 1)
             (eq, "$g_multiplayer_player_respawn_as_bot", 1),
             (player_get_agent_id, ":player_agent", ":player_no"),
             (ge, ":player_agent", 0),
             (neg|agent_is_alive, ":player_agent"),
             (agent_get_time_elapsed_since_removed, ":elapsed_time", ":player_agent"),
             (gt, ":elapsed_time", "$g_multiplayer_respawn_period"),

             (player_get_team_no, ":player_team", ":player_no"),
             (assign, ":is_found", 0),
             (try_for_agents, ":cur_agent"),
               (eq, ":is_found", 0),
               (agent_is_alive, ":cur_agent"),
               (agent_is_human, ":cur_agent"),
               (agent_is_non_player, ":cur_agent"),
               (agent_get_team ,":cur_team", ":cur_agent"),
               (eq, ":cur_team", ":player_team"),
               (assign, ":is_found", 1),
               #(player_control_agent, ":player_no", ":cur_agent"),
             (try_end),

             (try_begin),
               (eq, ":is_found", 1),
               (call_script, "script_find_most_suitable_bot_to_control", ":player_no"),
               (player_control_agent, ":player_no", reg0),

               (player_get_slot, ":num_spawns", ":player_no", slot_player_spawned_this_round),
               (val_add, ":num_spawns", 1),
               (player_set_slot, ":player_no", slot_player_spawned_this_round, ":num_spawns"),
             (try_end),
           (try_end),
         (try_end),
         ]),

Also you need to add script to delay the actual round time as well so that it doesn't run before players spawn.
I made it by adding following script above the previous one:

#round time counter delay BEGIN	   
      (0, 0, 0, [], #Do not reduce round time before players spawn.
       [
         (multiplayer_is_server),
         (try_begin),
            (store_mission_timer_a, ":seconds_past_since_round_started"),
	    (le, ":seconds_past_since_round_started", 16),
            (store_mission_timer_a, "$g_round_start_time"),     
            (get_max_players, ":num_players"),
            (try_for_range, ":player_no", 0, ":num_players"),
              (player_is_active, ":player_no"),
              (multiplayer_send_int_to_player, ":player_no", multiplayer_event_set_round_start_time, -9999), #this will also initialize moveable object slots.
            (try_end),      
         (try_end),
       ]),  
#round time counter delay END

EDIT: sry there was still one fault line there, edited it now.. Kinda posted this in rush