Copyright of TW-owned Warband content?

[AdaChanDesu]

So, if any of you sticked around during the time when the Swadian Roleplay (Now Warband Roleplay) server was being made, you may remember the whole drama around Blueberry - the guy supervising and managing it, that got banned for constant fighting and insults in his thread.

Skipping all the not-so-vital stuff about him using a hacker friend to steal mine and other people's personal information to publish a PM from our private inbox to reveal some sort of condemning evidence as reasoning for a ban and posting it to everybody on his forum (Sic!), he's also apparently copyrighted everything related to Warband.

Take a look at the bottom of this page - http://www.warband-rp.com/forums/index.php

Still can't see it?

Originally, I've planned to send this to a moderator or admin, but seeing that I have no idea who I should send such things to, I am simply posting it here to recieve information regarding such or recieving word from the higher ups themselves.

And before anyone suggests that this is revenge for being banned - why the heck not? It's been a few long months since the incident. I ain't the one making up total bullcrap here, and the matter should be dealt with either way.

There's also a lot of things about the author, like faking the code creator's death (and newspaper info...) just to recieve full "ownership" of it, when the guy comes back and posts a year later, just for his post to be mysteriously deleted, but it ain't the point of this thing.

So, word up, dawgs, does this copyright crap bear any actual legal power, should this be sent to TW employees, or what?

 

[apsod]

There's also a lot of things about the author, like faking the code creator's death (and newspaper info...) just to recieve full "ownership" of it, when the guy comes back and posts a year later, just for his post to be mysteriously deleted, but it ain't the point of this thing. 

 

[hirovard]

This is just classic kingdom of Swadia, huge amount of crap where everyone just laughs at them.

 

[Leifr Eiríksson]

Blueberry. You've always been a raging ****.

I was not aware of this 'hacking' though. Care to elaborate?

 

[AdaChanDesu]

Blueberry. You've always been a raging ****.

I was not aware of this 'hacking' though. Care to elaborate?

Blueberry used his swedish friend (Whose name I won't mention publicly) to hack mine and other peoples accounts on a different forum to satisfy his own needs.

Here's the private message between us he obtained from a "anonymous informant" that turned out to be his Facebook friend, after tracking the hacker's IP and tracing it to the man: http://www.warband-rp.com/forums/index.php?topic=5660.0
(Quote: "After receiving an anonymous tip, we have finally found out who the bugger is that is DDoS'ing our site and server all the time, and thus destroying everyone's fun, possibly with help of other people.")

Here's the initial, hasty explanation of our forum's owner (Also hacked, hated by Blueberry as he used to manage his previous MP clan): http://the-kingdom-of-swadia.forumprofi.de/index.php?topic=333.0

And here's the follow-up to my previous link: http://the-kingdom-of-swadia.forumprofi.de/index.php?topic=334.0

EDIT: Here's the post on TW forums as well. Blue is perma banned, so he's using someone else to post stuff for him: http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,225516.0.html

 

[DrTomas]

Well we can't have a RP related community whitout a good cup of drama. Glad I never joined up with the whole roleplaying server thing in the first place.

Too bad most of the links you posted, Miko, requires registration. Would be interesting to read them.

 

[AdaChanDesu]

Well we can't have a RP related community whitout a good cup of drama. Glad I never joined up with the whole roleplaying server thing in the first place.

Too bad most of the links you posted, Miko, requires registration. Would be interesting to read them.

Here's Quantic's (The alleged DDoSer and one of the hacked people's) post regarding the whole thing. You can find the logical continuation on TW forums, in the last link of my previous post.

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6641/beztytuueyve.jpg

 

[AWdeV]

He's pathetic, you're pathetic. This is the lamest e-drama ever. You shouldn't've been conspiring to DDOS that ****, he shouldn't have peek'd into your pm's.


****in' hell.

 

[Splintert]

I'm glad the Warband Roleplay people didn't stick around on PW. This is a whole new level of retardation.

To the OP: I think they're copywriting their external, non-Warband related code.

 

[Frosty]

Is Blueberry that VirginMary guy? So many names 

 

[Renneko]

Here's the post on TW forums as well. Blue is perma banned, so he's using someone else to post stuff for him: http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,225516.0.html

Striker is just the head administrator of the Warband roleplay. Blueberry is not using striker to post his stuff.

To the OP: I think they're copywriting their external, non-Warband related code.

That is correct.

Edit: i don't wan't to get to deep in this e-drama. But Miko you should tell them the whole strory. From both sides, not only yours. http://www.warband-rp.com/forums/index.php?topic=5659.msg34514#msg34514

Spoiler: For those who want to read it.

 

[Deofuta]

"Respective Original Authors."

In matters of Law I believe this covers both the creator of Warband RP, who created whatever he created, but also the original creators of Taleworlds material. It doesn't list the owner of the site as the owner of the material, but its own authors.

If it said something like: 

"None of the content, concepts and other creative and intellectual property related to Warband Role Play may be copied or used in any way without the explicit consent of the Site Owner"

Or:

"None of the content, concepts and other creative and intellectual property related to Warband Role Play may be copied or used in any way without the explicit consent of the Warband Role Play Team."

I would have more cause for concern.

Is Blueberry that VirginMary guy? So many names 

No, this is a whole other brand of silly.

 

[Alene]

This is just classic kingdom of Swadia, huge amount of crap where everyone just laughs at them.

Please, don't mix the Warband Role Play and The Kingdom of Swadia clan. True, TKOS used to host the Swadian Role Play when Blueberry was in charge, and some time after that. From the same time when the server's name was changed into Warband Role Play, TKOS has not been involved in hosting or administering it.

The disclaimer itself I see to be quite useless, it does not add, nor remove anything from the usual copyright laws. The site copyrights are Blueberry's. The mod copyrights are owned by Gulos, or Gulos and Blueberry both. Warband copyrights are owned by Taleworlds. The concept of the mod can't be copyrighted.

Well, that's at least how I see it.

 

[Suspicous Pilgrim]

I see how Blueberry is still a pathetic, failed music writer.

 

[AWdeV]

Spoiler: For those who want to read it.

Strikers gonna strike.

 

[AdaChanDesu]

Spoiler: For those who want to read it.

Strikers gonna strike.

Yeah, I linked to that in one of my previous posts here...main one even.

Either way, this is supposed to be about the COPYRIGHTS, not that whole damn mess, but it appears that it's impossible to avoid the topic being derailed.

EDIT3: Note to self - do not change your post 2 times after submitting it, as it may lose all sense.

 

[Splintert]

Everything involved with Warband Roleplay is a joke to anyone with half a brain. Plus we've already determined that their copyright means effectively nothing. Simply put, no one gives a crap. Or, at least, I can't think of a reason anyone would.

Its better off just leaving them to their forum and ignoring the whole scheme.

 

[Duh]

Either way, this is supposed to be about the COPYRIGHTS, not that whole damn mess, but it appears that it's impossible to avoid the topic being derailed. 

Strange that you would so readily provide all the necessary information, heck even pictures, for that other stuff, if you didnt want to talk about it.

 

[Vincenzo]

"Warband Role Play" is the name of their mod, they say the copyright lies within the origional creators, which is true, its basic copyright law all over the world.

What the heck are you complaining about?

Oh yeah.. you got banned for DDOSing... 


/thread.

 

[captain lust]

EDIT3: Note to self - do not change your post 2 times after submitting it, as it may lose all sense.

That which does not exist... cannot be lost.