A question about the use of music.

[Lord Tim]

Hi folks,
As said I have a question about the use of music in mods.
My work on the City-States of Calradia had died out because I had used a lot of items which I had mistakenly assumed to be OSP items. Later I found out they were not.
Now, almost a year later, I decided to pick up my work again as soon as I'm back in Belgium (Atm I'm not, obviously) and if I'm able to finish it this time, I'll might finally release it.

Now there is this particular question I have about what music pieces I can use in my mod.
I'm not sure if I can use them without permission from the owner, even though it has been released.
F.e. I want to use a soundtrack by Hans Zimmer which he made for Gladiator and a soundtrack by Steve Jablonsky for The Island.
Can I use these soundtracks without permission of the owner or is it necessary that I either get permission or make some music myself?

If anyone could explain this to me further, I'd be very grateful.
It is likely that this has been asked before, but to avoid finding a no longer correct answer, I'll ask it again.

 

[Specialist]

You probably want to get permission first.

 

[FrisianDude]

You're gonna want their permission. Maybe you can find an e-mailaddress for them on the internet. No shame in asking.

 

[Lord Tim]

Okay, thx for answering
I'll doubt they'll let me, so I'll try and find someone out there on the world wide web who has some music for that I can use. 

 

[Specialist]

If you just ask they might.
The Gladiator mod has been down since .808, and the other mod, well, I've never heard about it before.

 

[Lord Tim]

The Gladiator and The Island are both very famous movies
Hans Zimmer and Steve Jablonsky are most famous Soundtrack componists haha.

I guess I should have pointed that out ^^

 

[Specialist]

Oooooooh.
I feel a bit stupid now.
I thought you meant the mods. I didn't think you were talking about the movies (both of which I've seen) Lol

I would have to say that you probably won't get permission. But you can always try...

 

[Lord Tim]

Don't! I feel more stupid for having to ask such a thing
As said, I'll go out there and find someone who has some music for me.

 

[Specialist]

http://www.rejenorst.com/

This site may have some stuff you can use. But not sure.

 

[Lord Tim]

You have only just helped me out greatly
IF I ever finish the mod and IF I release it, I just might credit you

 

[Specialist]

Lol

If you want to or not, doesn't matter to me.
Credit is nice though.

 

[xenoargh]

F.e. I want to use a soundtrack by Hans Zimmer which he made for Gladiator and a soundtrack by Steve Jablonsky for The Island.
Can I use these soundtracks without permission of the owner or is it necessary that I either get permission or make some music myself?

Your chance of getting legal permission is very close to zero.  Using them without permission is a copyright violation, and can result in various bad things happening.  Basically, don't do that, lol.

Find music by lesser artists who might be in a position to offer you the rights to use it (a lot of musicians who aren't famous will let you use stuff in mods in exchange for some credit and public notice).  There is plenty of good orchestral music available by people you've never heard of, and a lot of those people will let you use their work if you credit them and give them some free exposure.

 

[Specialist]

The only way he could legally use music without permission is if it is from the year 1880 or before (without a currently validated copyright liscence).
I did check that law out, which is odd.... But still useful. If I wanted to use Beethoven in my mod it's a go!

 

[Barf]

You can also look for music released under creative commons which basically says you can use it unless you make a profit.
https://creativecommons.org/legalmusicforvideos

 

[Lord Tim]

It is likely that I have enough material on the site that The Specialist has given me earlier

Barf, your site says that the music is free to be used in video's. An M&B mod isn't a video, but thanks for all the help folks

 

[Soil]

F.e. I want to use a soundtrack by Hans Zimmer which he made for Gladiator and a soundtrack by Steve Jablonsky for The Island.
Can I use these soundtracks without permission of the owner or is it necessary that I either get permission or make some music myself?

Your chance of getting legal permission is very close to zero.  Using them without permission is a copyright violation, and can result in various bad things happening.  Basically, don't do that, lol.

Find music by lesser artists who might be in a position to offer you the rights to use it [...]

D:

Lord Tim, you can use the music from the site Barf linked to for your mod, as long as you credit the composers and in some cases don't edit it.

 

[Bayard-X]

I am wondering if giving players a list of tracks to purchase and put in the mod folder would be ok; thinking about no one giving a damn what CDs I listen to while playing. 

 

[Lord Tim]

I am wondering if giving players a list of tracks to purchase and put in the mod folder would be ok; thinking about no one giving a damn what CDs I listen to while playing. 

That is indeed true,
also: I made my own music folder and replaced it with all native music files in any mod that has one.
But since the native ones are rather lame, I think it'd be interesting to make up a list for the mod.
It's just so easy that the game autogenerates music depending on what factions you're battling etc...

 

[Bayard-X]

Yeah. And record industry cannot really complain.

 

[Tsubodai]

I have always wondered about this because some mods have used Gladiator music and Rome Total War music but didn't credit it.