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Paraphrasing one of Ancilmon's ideas.

But the Romans had no Iron weapons

Mongols

ancalimon said:

Tens of thousands of Armanians were massacred in retribution famine and the Ottomans stupidity to send the Armenians near Kurds. Why did they send them? so as not to die themselves because there were traitors killing citizens and cutting supply lines while the army was fighting in the frontlines.

Now tell me:  If Germany and Turkey were at war and Turks in Germany formed a terrorist organization and started razing German cities and erasing them from map, And if Germans forced the Turks living in Germany to Turkey and they were killed by Greeks on the way, would you call it a genocide? (Moreover, Turks in Germany do no have a leader like Armenians did in Turkey. Their pope started a terrorist organization)

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Wait.... So you're saying that every single Armenian victim of the Ottoman's policy of forced relocation, was a member of the Papal conspiracy, armed and instigated by Germans (lets not forget were allies) and motivated by their hatred of the Ottoman Turks? You're claiming that 1.5 million Armenian citizens were terrorists and that the action taken by the government and militia groups was justified?

****ing boss how baelish is there

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/15/turkish-academics-to-apol_n_151060.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7784230.stm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turkish-academics-in-apology-to-armenians-1067066.html

oh look what I found, using the same criteria for what constitutes evidence as ancalimon. Whilst the reports do not prove any genocide occurred, they do demonstrate that respected Turkish scholars are willing to apologise for a genocide they believed occurred based on the evidence available to them.

Fair go, I thought that the Iudeu scene looked more like Din Edyn.

In my game the scene for din edyn is the same used for licidfelth etc.

Out of interest does anyone know how often the Praetorian Guard fought in actual battles/campaigns?

I ****ing love Bernard Cornwell's 'The Fort'

...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
— Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article II

Taken from wikipedia cause i'm lazy, but by any unbiased/rational thought the conditions placed upon the Armenian population in the Ottoman Empire between 1915-22 does constitute a Genocide.

As a small invasion force allowing a much larger army behind your lines of communication/supply is a massive mistake worthy of been counted among the worst strategic positions/mistakes. It was the action he took afterwards that nullified the mistake.

But he won at Issus due to his genius as a field commander, he made a serious mistake because Darius intercepted his supply lines and was allowed to pick the battlefield.

Alexander the Greats march south prior to the battle of Issus. It allowed Darius to intercept his line of supply and communication, effectively cutting him off from the rest of the Greek world.

bertanx said:

Papa Lazarou said:

bertanx said:

Papa Lazarou said:

Stop being such a groupist, it's embarrassing. Did you personally "defend" yourself against Armenians? No? Then don't say "we."

And don't treat entire populations as if they're single entities, Turkish or Armenian.

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While Ottoman was at war against Russia Tsardom, Armenians raided Turkish villages, and killed a lot of Turks, and attacked them from back then the government made them imigrate to another place, and in the imigration road they found more dead Turks than Armenians.

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Does that have something to do with what I said?

I don't know much about the event, but you seem to be taking the accusations personally. You're not responsible for crimes committed by Turks. This is what I meant when I said not to be a groupist. You're not responsible for things done by your fellow group-members, and neither are Armenians.

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I understand you but I am not taking it personally, because this event is a piece of propaganda sh*t. Yes Armenians died(maybe hundreds), but that is not a genocide, they are trying to make us accept a "crime" that we had never actually done.

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Hundreds of thousands of Armenians died, either in systematic killings of Armenian civilians or forcing them to march to the sea with purposefully limited resources. It is generally estimated by international observers and scholars that 1.5 million Armenians were affected in the campaign, which was committed and planned by the Young Turk movement. The Young Turk movement sought to create a new, unified country based upon race. A quick look into what constitutes a genocide will show you that the Young Turk movement is/was guilty of genocide.

signed

I tend to just hunt parties that have prisoners, to the extent that i'll gladly watch allies lose before stepping in and mopping up. 

I love Anglo-Saxon double entendre

I am a strange creature, for I satisfy women.
I grow very tall, erect in bed,
I'm hairy underneath. From time to time
A beautiful girl, the brave daughter
Of some fellow dares to hold me
Grips my reddish skin, robs me of my head
And puts me in the pantry. At once that girl
With plaited hair who has confined me
Remembers our meeting. Her eye moistens.