Smithing Balance

[yeoman1346]

I've leveled my smithing to about 250 and I've noticed some issues. Unlocks are totally random but as I progress, tier 1 items become useless when I have tier 2 items unlocked. They become useless once I have tier 3 items unlocked etc. But I've got several blades for tier 5 unlocked but I'm still missing lots of items from all around.

This could be fixed by focusing on lower level unlocks first, or by simply unlocking the whole tier once hitting a certain level. I would like to see a combination of both honestly. There didn't feel like much progression and it feels come completely geared towards swords rather than the easier to make items like spears and axes.

 

[D0c1]

what would you think if they made recipes purchasable?

 

[yeoman1346]

That wouldn't be bad so you could get exactly what you want. I doubt they would do it though. They went all in on this unlock system.

The other gripe I have is that smithing two handed weapons gives far more unlocks than single handed weapons with similar similar material costs.

 

[TheWitchIzalith]

That wouldn't be bad so you could get exactly what you want. I doubt they would do it though. They went all in on this unlock system.

The other gripe I have is that smithing two handed weapons gives far more unlocks than single handed weapons with similar similar material costs.

I'm struggling to unlock anything, smithing is at 50 ish from entirely smelting and Ive got 2-3 one hand swords. and maybe 1 complete weapon of everything else.

 

[yeoman1346]

Make the highest level two handed weapons that you can. And make the blade big to increase difficulty. You'll unlock stuff fast.

 

[yeoman1346]

Though now I'm at a point where I can't unlock stuff cause my skill is too high.

 

[TheWitchIzalith]

Though now I'm at a point where I can't unlock stuff cause my skill is too high.

Use companions. They also have a smithing skill, and you can unlock stuff with them.

Perhaps them being level 0 in it will make it so you can get recipes faster?

 

[yeoman1346]

Use companions. They also have a smithing skill, and you can unlock stuff with them.

Perhaps them being level 0 in it will make it so you can get recipes faster?

I'll try that. Thanks.

 

[yeoman1346]

Use companions. They also have a smithing skill, and you can unlock stuff with them.

Perhaps them being level 0 in it will make it so you can get recipes faster?

I just tried it. It doesn't affect the unlock rate. Might as well get the skill for my character.

 

[yeoman1346]

So now I'm grinding out one mostly tier 4 2 handed sword because I can't unlock tier 5 parts. They need to redo the unlock system, seriously. At 265 skill and barely moving. What a grind!

 

[SkiFreeYeti]

In general, everything is an atrocious grind past level 75 or so.

 

[Maximum997]

So now I'm grinding out one mostly tier 4 2 handed sword because I can't unlock tier 5 parts. They need to redo the unlock system, seriously. At 265 skill and barely moving. What a grind!

To unlock every part you need to smelt 750 000 t6 weapons. Becose you need more and more xp to unlock another part.

It is not a grind, it is insanity

 

[JackieWT]

To unlock every part you need to smelt 750 000 t6 weapons. Becose you need more and more xp to unlock another part.

It is not a grind, it is insanity

It seems to me that TW didn't even do the math to predict how long with it take before implementing any features, not only smithing.

 

[Maximum997]

It seems to me that TW didn't even do the math to predict how long with it take before implementing any features, not only smithing.

I guess they even didnt think about numbers. Right now they want it just to work. Balancing and polisihng will be last step.

 

[JackieWT]

I think they should remove the need of unlocking parts outright.
They should expand the failure system, you will fail if you try to smith something that is way above your skill.

 

[Maximum997]

I think they should remove the need of unlocking parts outright.
They should expand the failure system, you will fail if you try to smith something that is way above your skill.

A lot of problem with parts. With using t1-t3 part you can only smith crap that you can get from looters or buy almost for free

 

[Razorts]

To unlock every part you need to smelt 750 000 t6 weapons. Becose you need more and more xp to unlock another part.

It is not a grind, it is insanity

where you get that number from?
Smelting 750 000 t6 weapons would net you enough exp to reach at least lvl 700 in smithing

 

[yeoman1346]

I think they should remove the need of unlocking parts outright.
They should expand the failure system, you will fail if you try to smith something that is way above your skill.

They could just make it so you can't Smith something above 10 points of your skill level. That way you can still push the envelope to level up but it wouldn't be cheating. I like the idea of getting rid of unlocks.