The words 'easy' and 'Source' should never be used in the same sentence. It's the most backwards, obfuscated, hard-to-use engine there is.
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orangeknite1
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Yeah that was a bad example, Source is the biggest pain in the ass ever. Though the question is which is harder to mod Source or M&B?Docm30 said:
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Probably Source. I am personally expecting something along the lines of Bethesda's creation kit. It can be very powerful, but also fairly simple to use.
I really hope not. Now, I've never used the "Creation Kit" but the Construction Set was always easy to use but not really capable of making significant changes to the game. That's basically the opposite to what they should do with M&B 2.
I hope we get something like the current module-system but with more access to the core game.
I hope we get something like the current module-system but with more access to the core game.
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I can see what you are saying there, but I think that there should be one like the CK, but with a more advanced system similar to the current one for more advanced modders.
orangeknite1
Sergeant Knight at Arms
The thing I'm wondering if they are accutly gonna release any tools for modding. If you think about Taleworlds they haven't helped the modding scene that much. They only have the code pretty-much and the map editor, for getting basic stuff in we need a tool like open BRF. I hope they take some time and just release some nice tools and get input on the tools from the modders.
Barf
Sergeant Knight at Arms
I am betting that OpenBrf is close if not better than what the devs are using to import their models.
I expect they will continue to use the same model format maybe with a new tangent space basis (hopefully based on Xnormal's?), either way I expect OpenBrf will
continue to work fine.
I expect they will continue to use the same model format maybe with a new tangent space basis (hopefully based on Xnormal's?), either way I expect OpenBrf will
continue to work fine.
OrangeKnight said:
Source mods are C++ DLLs loaded by the engine. You can't really go farther than that. It allows you to almost anything, even adding your own embedded Lua interpreter. Not a fan of cpp myself. After so many years hacking around limitations in Mount&Blade it feels unnatural, even counter-intuitive.
So, that's good and bad at the same time. M&B modding has been always an accessible, family product. That's part of its success.
OrangeKnight said:
They have done quite a bit actually, and do listen to modders quite a bit as well.
Swyter said:
I'm going to develop an engine that will allow you to mod it by making you design a chip gate-by-gate, which will then be distributed by sharing the schematics and printed off via a 3D printer. FEAR MY BABBAGIAN POWER!
ET engineering for games like a baws.MadocComadrin said:
But mods are going to have to be sold to cover the expenses of producing the chips. Or you'll be limited only to people who have 3D printers.
Actually, they have. A lot of the current operations were added to the ModSys simply because modders requested them.OrangeKnight said:
orangeknite1
Sergeant Knight at Arms
True it was a unfair claim, I just hope they really do devolp some nice tools for us to use.
Duke Daniel Milutin
Banned
When Warband came out did people start making modifications of it once? I think I would play it for the first several months without event thinking about mods if it was good. Even if you don't agree what's the point of making a mod of a game you don't know anything about anyway? Character isn't the only thing which gets changed, most probably everything will.
Barf
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Danik Golovanov said:
I was making mods for Warband during the beta, granted it was really small stuff (helmet and new face model) and with the absence of Openbrf I had a hell of a time getting certain features to work [in vanilla]. One of the things that attracted me to Vanilla M&B was the prospect of modding, even if only insane pioneers were doing it, that little drop-down with "current module" in the splash screen when you boot up the game was a promise of cool things to come.
Lies, all of it.Csatádi said:
