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Alex_C said:

Kwal said:

Does it matter in melee combat which body part you hit? I was inclined to think so, as it seems easier to 1-hit people on the head when they're not wearing any helmet, but a few people in the IG server told me recently that it only matters for ranged combat. And I do know that speed and how you time your swings are important, so it could just be that. However that would probably mean all swings just affect body armor, which seems weird to me. I'm hoping someone can explain to me what is the case and possibly show me a thread or some game mechanics concerning this. Thanks in advance

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As far as I know, it does matter which part you hit them in, in three broad categories: Legs, Body and Head. Hits to the head do more damage, and hits to the legs will have a greater chance of knockdown if I recall correctly. There are probably other effects than these as well.

It's also affected by where a person's wearing their armour, if someone has full plate body-armour and a great helm, but only peasant shoes or whatever, a hit to the legs will effectively do more damage.

Not sure if there's a thread or anything specifically detailing all of this.

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For ranged attacks hitting the head, damage is doubled. Melee attacks hitting the head is damage * 1.5 (believe thats the value). Damage to the body is 1x. Damage to the legs is halved I believe. Note that these locations also tend to have different armor values depending on what your opponent is wearing, so an attack hitting the legs might still do more damage than an attack to the body because of poor leg armor.

...And I was never here...

LES is adding [LES] Edahar to our roster. I believe we are under the roster cap so there shouldn't be a problem. =)

Yes indeed, good fights all. Lets go for the 60-0 group score. 

Oh, and the autoblocker that's circulating around is nowhere near that complexity. In fact it's just a script kiddie hack that turns on the Native automatic block.

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Its actually fun detecting this little guy. There is a perfectly valid way to figure out this behavior heuristically on the server side. The python required is a little tedious but I found the technique itself rather clever.

Wow, I watched this through for the first time last night and the production is superb. Good fights, fantastic sound quality, tight cuts, high quality recordings from Lust. Now we just need TW to use this as propaganda to get more people pumped for M&B2

Erminas said:

Ok,since the deadline is today,when will the NC groups be ready?

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Currently F5ing 

LES is currently doodling the time to hold the 3rd place match and will announce something soon(tm)

3rd place- UK- Do i really need to explain ...Captain Lust...

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You're going to need to explain this one. 

Please add Jamzta and Tuxorz to the LES roster.

All dickwaving aside regarding rules disputes, I would love to commentate the finals with Lust and company. Unfortunately, since both lust and I would be involved in the 3rd place match we'll need to find another co-caster for Rhade.

No time yet for the BkS scrim. US NC cup practice is Saturday for those interested in watching and or participating. Depending on the turnout we might be able to fit in a few ringers for the OpFor squad.

The last of the prizes have been payed out and I'll try to make a final update to this thread sometime in the next two weeks with stats and the remaining videos to get them all into the OP.

Killfacer said:

Was that supposed to be funny? I'm genuinely interested.

(edit) I kinda feel that maybe instead of writing something incomprehensible and presumably sarcastic, you should write your opinion.

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Gulatr is wrong. His arguments are so shaky that they can easily be parodied to a ridiculous degree. Adding more people just to make something more "epic" is ridiculous. Show me tactics that work at 10 vs. 10 which are impossible at 8 vs. 8. Gulatr is asserting 10vs10 has some inherent superiority to 8vs8 without presenting any examples or evidence as to why this is the case. As such, I posted an equally ludicrous response lacking the same critical thinking as Gulatr's original post.

Everyone, I think I have the perfect solution to this situation.

What we'll do is make it so that a country with less skilled players will be able to field more of them in every battle. This will mean that in every battle against a better country, one side will feel like they are the Spartans and the leader is actually Leonidas. This will increase how epic battles are because everyone will either be a Spartan or an Immortal, and we all know how British bad ass their teeth are by being filed to points. Also, this will be very balanced because we know that some countries don't have a lot of good players. Instead, these countries can just get a lot of bad players together and have an equal shot at winning.

I don't see why anyone would disagree with making the Nation's Cup more epic by refusing to let people be Spartans. Furthermore, the Spartans will have to use lots of tactics to win because you can't just send people to every corner of the map. Instead, you'll really have to work together as a tightly knit group of elite black ops commandos in order to win each round. Also, the Immortals will have to coordinate together in order to beat the super elite Spartans which further increases the amount of tactics involved. What I am saying is that by going to this format we will have a super epic tournament where lots and lots of elite special forces tactics are needed to win. This is on the heart of LES LordHasek and I really feel if you all look deep into your souls you know that I am right.

For one I would say I am a little dismayed that this has turned into pretty much exactly what I expected. A gigantic amount of dickwaving and accusations of bias. In the end, results are what are important. I'm being told that Ra has some amazing players - letholdus, beer, Bgfan etc... and I don't want to denigrate anyone's skill but not many clans are composed of entirely amazing people. Most clans are centered around one or two very skilled personalities that tend to shape who is brought in for supporting positions. If the argument is that Ra has too many casual players to succeed I'm going to come out and say it's not terribly difficult to find a few decent enough players to fill in roles if you have one or two absolutely fantastic players.

The Nation's Cup captains are trying to find the fantastic players and cherry pick them into a dream-team by taking in to consideration an enormous amount of factors. Personal skill with a blade, bow, or lance is only one part of the equation - the ability to work together in a new team, fulfill one's unique role well, and meet one's potential of skill in a very challenging environment is a different skillset that takes a competitive mindset in order to succeed. So are there some very close calls on the team in terms of skill level? Perhaps so - but don't make the mistake of thinking that is the one and only criteria.

ManOfWar and Hubbel have recieved their prizes. Just waiting now on M to get back to me with either a list of games or his paypal info.

Thought I would upload this as some motivational propaganda. I must say that both maps of the NASTe match would have made for some good television. Great lances on foot, 1-4 comebacks, archer vs. cav duels, brutal infantry engagements on Nord Town. Good times.


Well done everyone 

[M] said:

LordHasek said:

Congratulations to both M and Hubbel for playing two fantastic sets! Perhaps next time we'll make it a best of 3 BO13 sets?

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I'd be happy with longer sets in general, especially on fastest where variance is so dongs high, but you can't do a best of X sets for a final in double elimination without stripping the winner bracket finalist of an earned advantage.

Probably the best thing to do to keep the results of these tournaments acceptably legitimate but make them much faster is to increase the length of sets and switch to single elimination. The lower bracket is the part that always gets bogged down, nobody can be bothered to arrange duels when they think they can't win the tournament anymore. I've been lucky enough to stay in the top bracket until the finals in all these tournaments and I have to wait for months at a time to continue, it's pretty bleak. Playing first to ~12 medium or first to ~20 fastest would make the matchups feel Real and single elimination should mean a large tourney can get blasted through in a few weeks or a month tops. It's incredibly important to do proper seed calculations from relevant past tournaments if you're switching to single elim though, without that the results are about half as accurate as these slow double elims which would be a bit jokes.
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My suggestion was meant to pertain for the finals only. Yes, 3 BO13s for the entire bracket would be a bit excessive. Your input is appreciated however.

Team Name: LES
Team Captain: LordHasek
Contact information of Captain: Taleworld PM

Team Members:

1. LordHasek
2. CommissarK
3. Orion (Marnid)
4. International (Mok)
5. Tavi
6. BlackTide
7. Mr.X
8. Hawk
9. Roxhard

If you are interested in North American clans, you might check out the North American Small Teams Seasonal Ladder here: http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,194970.0.html

The first season is finishing up, but any of the clans would be worth looking into if you are located on the North or South American side of the Atlantic.