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MArdA TaleWorlds said:

The crashid we got shows there are number of mods enabled. Could you deactivate or delete them and try again? We can't support any issues that results from the mods. If you can reproduce the same issue without the mods, we will take a look.

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So yea it was mod related in order to finally purge the problem i had to not only uninstall and reinstall which i had already tried but also delete all remaining files in steam/bannerlord folder AND delete everything in documents as well THEN reinstall on a different SSD to finallly resolve the issue
the problem with the crashlist is that none of the save crashes (including the one I thought was unmoded) were listed because they were not considered to be a crash at all since i killed the game with task manager due to prema-freeze thank for your help its not the vanilla games fault

MArdA TaleWorlds said:

ProgramData is a hidden folder by default. You can see it by enabling the ability to show hidden folder in the folder settings.

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thanks i created the ticket

MArdA TaleWorlds said:

Could you send us the contents of the C:\ProgramData\Mount and Blade II Bannerlord\logs folder after you try to launch the game and freeze it again?

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would love to but that file doesnt seem to exist my game is under D/steamlibrary/steamapps/common/mountandblade2bannerlord
idk if that changes how such a file would be named but its not there and it also is not in the m&b2 documents folder either
also there is no such thing as the folder programdata on my entire pc only microsoft files

MArdA TaleWorlds said:

This crash did happen because of the mods installed. If you can reproduce the issue on un-modded game please let us know! Please note that we can’t support any modding-related issues. You can find more information about how to remove modifications here.

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ok i played for like 25 minutes on vanilla and same thing happened complete freeze while saving