The Peloponnesian War - Screenshots

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Yeah, I realize that. I said he became a warrior.
"he became a warrior" is not "he went to Sparta and bypassed the years of training that normally would be needed and became a warrior who led men 30x as good as him in combat"

(I do understand why you jumped to that conclusion though. I know some people are all, "300 Spartan's invincible forces of uber-leet warriors and my guy went to Sparta and became one of those." Though, I do think if I said he arrived in any other area...such as Athens...you wouldn't have jumped to that conclusion)
 
Oh yeah I would have. I'm not just a Spartan fan, I'm a big Greek dude (I actually have 20 or so percent of my lineage in Corinth (or so my family says)), and I don't like bashing any specific place. Spartans were never 30x better, even the 300 weren't. The Spartans could, in one on one, beat twice their number, and in phalanx, 4-6 times their number of greeks. "Becoming" a warrior by going anywhere in Greece was not possible. Regardless of what city state, they all needed training. Just because Athens and Corinth didn't have the training of Sparta doesn't make them weak or inferior, but it does mean that you can't just go to a city-state, buy armor and a weapon, and call yourself a hero/warrior. (By the way, I'm not a huge fan of Leonidas. I actually like King Agesilaus, the guy who went rampaging through Persia with a few thousand men for years obliterating their forces, much much more.)
 
Sorry i do not have any pictures right now, tho i can inform that i am marshall of the Delian Confederacy and marching to the kingdom of Thrace with an army of 1300 troops trying to make a rampage there
 
Specialist said:
Oh yeah I would have. I'm not just a Spartan fan, I'm a big Greek dude (I actually have 20 or so percent of my lineage in Corinth (or so my family says)), and I don't like bashing any specific place. Spartans were never 30x better, even the 300 weren't. The Spartans could, in one on one, beat twice their number, and in phalanx, 4-6 times their number of greeks. "Becoming" a warrior by going anywhere in Greece was not possible. Regardless of what city state, they all needed training. Just because Athens and Corinth didn't have the training of Sparta doesn't make them weak or inferior, but it does mean that you can't just go to a city-state, buy armor and a weapon, and call yourself a hero/warrior. (By the way, I'm not a huge fan of Leonidas. I actually like King Agesilaus, the guy who went rampaging through Persia with a few thousand men for years obliterating their forces, much much more.)
Don't worry about it man, it's just a game. And a sandbox game as well, which means one could go around and make a story of his own.

If this guy wants to play a Spartan version of captain Algren, then let him. Each to his own. :smile:
 
Specialist said:
Oh yeah I would have. I'm not just a Spartan fan, I'm a big Greek dude (I actually have 20 or so percent of my lineage in Corinth (or so my family says)), and I don't like bashing any specific place. Spartans were never 30x better, even the 300 weren't. The Spartans could, in one on one, beat twice their number, and in phalanx, 4-6 times their number of greeks. "Becoming" a warrior by going anywhere in Greece was not possible. Regardless of what city state, they all needed training. Just because Athens and Corinth didn't have the training of Sparta doesn't make them weak or inferior, but it does mean that you can't just go to a city-state, buy armor and a weapon, and call yourself a hero/warrior. (By the way, I'm not a huge fan of Leonidas. I actually like King Agesilaus, the guy who went rampaging through Persia with a few thousand men for years obliterating their forces, much much more.)

umm I have to say a few things after this but when you said 20 percent of your lineage in Corinth you do know that dose not mean you are related to the Hellenic greeks. its safe to say the "greeks" that live in Greece are not related to the Hellenic greeks if they are it would be a very low precent like 1- 10.

I hate when people use the comparison of Spartans Vs the one from 300 it is completely blown outta proportion. " I actually like King Agesilaus, the guy who went rampaging through Persia with a few thousand men for years obliterating their forces, much much more.)" I so agree with you :smile:
 
bucyei, would you care to elaborate more? How come contemporanean greeks are not directly related to hellenic ones? There weren't massive migrations of slavic peoples to Greece as far as I know, and the mix with latin migrants during roman and byzantine dominion were not geneticaly significant...
 
Specialist said:
Rorikern said:
After a long voyage, a lone Greek man by the name of Andromache, arrived in Sparta...
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and became a warrior...
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You do realize that you couldn't just "go" to Sparta and become a warrior, right? Those guys were trained from 5-6 years old until the day they died, and if they were weak as babies....well...let's not go further

People could sign up their kids for Spartan education. I believe the Athenian Xenophon did that, as he was a big supporter of Sparta. Though becoming a full fledged Spartan would be pretty close to impossible I gues as a outsider.
 
VictorF said:
bucyei, would you care to elaborate more? How come contemporanean greeks are not directly related to hellenic ones? There weren't massive migrations of slavic peoples to Greece as far as I know, and the mix with latin migrants during roman and byzantine dominion were not geneticaly significant...

"Alexander's toppling of the Achaemenid Empire, after his victories at the battles of the Granicus, Issus and Gaugamela, and advance as far as modern-day Pakistan and Tajikistan, provided an important outlet for Greek culture, via the creation of colonies and trade routes along the way". alot of the Greekes migrated to Alexandria, Antioch, Seleucia and many other new Hellenistic cities founded in Alexander's wake. But, this dose not mean I am right because 20000 years later people still say that they are descended from the migrateing Greekes.

PS: I could be wrong and I mean no offence for all I know this could be a load of fudge I could be saying so I would not dissprove that 20 or so percent of lineage in Corinth again I could be wrong if any one can dissprove me than plz do so as a hopefull historian I love to be correct with the truth.
 
Geez, if I knew my posting of screenshots would turn a section for screenshots into debate I wouldn't have posted them.

To clarify:

I know Andromache is a female name, my character was originally female. As stated before....a page back...
No, my character isn't some guy who just randomly went to Sparta and became a warrior among them. I simply chose Sparta as my starting point because there are lots of bandits around there. So therefore, Andromache arrived in Sparta. Also, he became a warrior because the main point of the game is the combat.
No, I do not confuse Spartans with the 300 fantasy dudes if that comment was directed to me.

My suggestion?
Play the game and make some nice screenshots to put into the screenshot thread so others may see this wonderful mod and support it. Rather then debate about stuff that you misread/never read. Or debating things that don't belong in a screenshot thread.

Just my .02
 
Rorikern said:
Geez, if I knew my posting of screenshots would turn a section for screenshots into debate I wouldn't have posted them.

To clarify:

I know Andromache is a female name, my character was originally female. As stated before....a page back...
No, my character isn't some guy who just randomly went to Sparta and became a warrior among them. I simply chose Sparta as my starting point because there are lots of bandits around there. So therefore, Andromache arrived in Sparta. Also, he became a warrior because the main point of the game is the combat.
No, I do not confuse Spartans with the 300 fantasy dudes if that comment was directed to me.

My suggestion?
Play the game and make some nice screenshots to put into the screenshot thread so others may see this wonderful mod and support it. Rather then debate about stuff that you misread/never read. Or debating things that don't belong in a screenshot thread.

Just my .02

I agree with every thing you said there. and the spartan to 300 thing was just a general thing so im going to stop this pointless talk now and start looking and hopefully post my own pics.

Ps: havent got the chance to say but nice pics you posted  :grin:
 
Where are screenshots saved to? This looks rather great. Are sea battles in the current version? I notice the cities have armies of c. 400, a lot of fights needed then.
 
bucyei said:
Rorikern said:
Geez, if I knew my posting of screenshots would turn a section for screenshots into debate I wouldn't have posted them.

To clarify:

I know Andromache is a female name, my character was originally female. As stated before....a page back...
No, my character isn't some guy who just randomly went to Sparta and became a warrior among them. I simply chose Sparta as my starting point because there are lots of bandits around there. So therefore, Andromache arrived in Sparta. Also, he became a warrior because the main point of the game is the combat.
No, I do not confuse Spartans with the 300 fantasy dudes if that comment was directed to me.

My suggestion?
Play the game and make some nice screenshots to put into the screenshot thread so others may see this wonderful mod and support it. Rather then debate about stuff that you misread/never read. Or debating things that don't belong in a screenshot thread.

Just my .02

I agree with every thing you said there. and the spartan to 300 thing was just a general thing so im going to stop this pointless talk now and start looking and hopefully post my own pics.

Ps: havent got the chance to say but nice pics you posted  :grin:

Genderfluid :lol:
 
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