Possut said:
Coltonh65 said:
I think the Naffatun units seriously need nerfed/weakened. Individually, they're fine. But when you have 2~3 volleys of grenades coming at you from 10+ of these units, it does NOT make for a fun time--especially when you're trying to siege a castle.
Or maybe put them further down the tree, and maybe add a new unit similar to Naffatun.
After a bit of poking around, I don't think the unit itself is over-powered, but it's really the naffatun grenade. 150c/150p (not sure which one it registers, could be both?) is just way too powerful when you consider it's being thrown by multiple units at once, at range. These units get spawned with 20 of them I think.
AFAIK the best throwing weapons don't inflict anywhere near that amount of damage, and the most damaging ones only have 4 ammo. I realize that throwing weapons as a whole aren't very popular, but from a gameplay standpoint the naffatun grenades blow everything else out of the water (no pun intended
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So that being said: What I was thinking is keep the Naffatun unit AND the grenade as it is, but do what Possut stated and perhaps add more units in the Naffatun tree. Bear in mind though, I believe the unit themselves aren't over powered, but the grenades are.
I suppose a way around this would be to add more grenades that progressively get more damaging--weaker units get smaller grenades, stronger units get larger grenades.
Adding different grenades, I would imagine, wouldn't be too difficult or time consuming to do. You could adjust the damage according to the grenade sizes, to the likeness of this:
Small Naffatun Grenade - 35c damage
Naffatun Grenade --60c damage
Big Naffatun Grenade -- 90c damage
Huge Naffatun Grenade -- 150c damage
(this would be the original grenade as it is in the game right now)
Or, if you don't want to use size, you could use something like:
Weak Naffatun Grenade
Naffatun Grenade
Strong Naffatun Grenade
Potent Naffatun Grenade
or something along those lines.
But yeah, I personally would not want to add any units like the Naffatun to any other faction--I love how they're unique to the Khergit. I just hate how they get 85% of the kills in sieges and the overpowering effectiveness they have when they're in groups.