Recommended sub-mods for Prophesy of Pendor (WB Version only)
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reaver456
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none of the towns were altered just the castles. Yes a few of the castles in the Ferdevian (I know I didnt spell this right) have been altered.
Also a lot of the new castles are much larger and have what look like villages and towns in them. But as we know castles are barren lonely places with no populace im working on a little mod right now to see if I can add town and village people in castle scenes.
Im seeing if I can use some of Idibil's code from Brytenwalda to implement castle walkers in Prophecy of Pendor. Cause the castles feel large and epic but barren.
Also a lot of the new castles are much larger and have what look like villages and towns in them. But as we know castles are barren lonely places with no populace im working on a little mod right now to see if I can add town and village people in castle scenes.
Im seeing if I can use some of Idibil's code from Brytenwalda to implement castle walkers in Prophecy of Pendor. Cause the castles feel large and epic but barren.
Babaganoush
Regular
There's this one castle in your complication that has two defense walls. One is the castle border walls which you can climb over, the other is the castle itself.
...What made me rage about it is that to ENTER the castle, you have to pass through the gate...
The gate is closed and there are no other alternative routes. The AI just scream and yell at each other at either side of the gate.
Was this intended or should I revert it back?
...What made me rage about it is that to ENTER the castle, you have to pass through the gate...
The gate is closed and there are no other alternative routes. The AI just scream and yell at each other at either side of the gate.
Was this intended or should I revert it back?
reaver456
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Which castle is it in game? Also if its the one I am thinking of with wooden gate. I should be destructible. Gotta hit it a bit then it will rise up and the carnage can begin. Your freindly Ai should be attempting to strike the enemies on the other side of the gate which in turns makes them actually strike the gate its self and do damage. It takes a minute for it to be destroyed but once you do enough damage the gate will lift up and allow your people in.
Heres a video of the castle I think your talking about being used in another mod. Skip to about 2:00 into the video shows them destroying the gate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evrjVFl
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or is it another castle you speak of?
Heres a video of the castle I think your talking about being used in another mod. Skip to about 2:00 into the video shows them destroying the gate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evrjVFl
Eor is it another castle you speak of?
Babaganoush
Regular
reaver456 said:Which castle is it in game? Also if its the one I am thinking of with wooden gate. I should be destructible. Gotta hit it a bit then it will rise up and the carnage can begin. Your freindly Ai should be attempting to strike the enemies on the other side of the gate which in turns makes them actually strike the gate its self and do damage. It takes a minute for it to be destroyed but once you do enough damage the gate will lift up and allow your people in.
Heres a video of the castle I think your talking about being used in another mod. Skip to about 2:00 into the video shows them destroying the gate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evrjVFl
or is it another castle you speak of?
Yeah it's that castle. I downloaded your updated castle compilation too.
And found another error.. forgot which castle it was since it was a few days ago and I procrastinated posting it on forums... Funny though.
reaver456
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well ill test that castle again more closely. (Start a new game use cheat to get a bunch of soldiers and seige it.)
Talking about the floating trees? Ya I noticed that too and some other castles have bit pieces of buildings floating in the air. Guess I could of deleted those things in the scene editor but wasn't to worried about that as much as was worried about there being AI path finding issues. Did you have any AI path finding issues in that castle as well?
Ill take a closer look at the wood gated castle you mentioned before. If its real buggy ill just replace it back with the native castle and update the compilation.
I haven't noticed any more stupid Mounted AI than with the native arenas. AI mesh was really well done in that mod. Both footed and horses know how to get around the objects. But occasionally one of the mounted may get hung up. But I haven't noticed that happening much. But more likely to happen is you can make the horses get stuck if you lure the mounted units to the edge of the arena they tend to get hung up but that happens in the native arenas as well.
author=Babaganoush
Yeah it's that castle. I downloaded your updated castle compilation too.
And found another error.. forgot which castle it was since it was a few days ago and I procrastinated posting it on forums... Funny though.
Talking about the floating trees? Ya I noticed that too and some other castles have bit pieces of buildings floating in the air. Guess I could of deleted those things in the scene editor but wasn't to worried about that as much as was worried about there being AI path finding issues. Did you have any AI path finding issues in that castle as well?
Ill take a closer look at the wood gated castle you mentioned before. If its real buggy ill just replace it back with the native castle and update the compilation.
Danath said:
I haven't noticed any more stupid Mounted AI than with the native arenas. AI mesh was really well done in that mod. Both footed and horses know how to get around the objects. But occasionally one of the mounted may get hung up. But I haven't noticed that happening much. But more likely to happen is you can make the horses get stuck if you lure the mounted units to the edge of the arena they tend to get hung up but that happens in the native arenas as well.
Mattrim
Sergeant
reaver456 said:well ill test that castle again more closely. (Start a new game use cheat to get a bunch of soldiers and seige it.)author=Babaganoush
Yeah it's that castle. I downloaded your updated castle compilation too.
And found another error.. forgot which castle it was since it was a few days ago and I procrastinated posting it on forums... Funny though.
Talking about the floating trees? Ya I noticed that too and some other castles have bit pieces of buildings floating in the air. Guess I could of deleted those things in the scene editor but wasn't to worried about that as much as was worried about there being AI path finding issues. Did you have any AI path finding issues in that castle as well?
Ill take a closer look at the wood gated castle you mentioned before. If its real buggy ill just replace it back with the native castle and update the compilation.
Danath said:
I haven't noticed any more stupid Mounted AI than with the native arenas. AI mesh was really well done in that mod. Both footed and horses know how to get around the objects. But occasionally one of the mounted may get hung up. But I haven't noticed that happening much. But more likely to happen is you can make the horses get stuck if you lure the mounted units to the edge of the arena they tend to get hung up but that happens in the native arenas as well.
You do notice that the wall is floating, right?
and that there doesn't appear to be an actual castle there... to me.
reaver456
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ok finally got home to work on this and so far identified 4 problem castle in the pack all from Utrehd's pack. Currently looking over the castles and will update this post if I find more.
Will change these back to native
1.High Cliffe Castle
2. Mobray Castle
3.Silver Edge keep
4.mysthorn keep
Will change these back to native
1.High Cliffe Castle
2. Mobray Castle
3.Silver Edge keep
4.mysthorn keep
reaver456
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OKay I updated the better castles compilation. The four castles below have been reverted back to the way they originally were and now only 17 castles are modded instead of 21.
1.High Cliffe Castle
2. Mobray Castle
3.Silver Edge keep
4.mysthorn keep
If you'll run into anymore problems with the castles post here and tell which castle you had trouble on.
1.High Cliffe Castle
2. Mobray Castle
3.Silver Edge keep
4.mysthorn keep
If you'll run into anymore problems with the castles post here and tell which castle you had trouble on.
Babaganoush
Regular
Thanks for the update. Also you said that the dynamic groups do not work on sieges. Is this just not included in the updated mission_templates or not possible to fix?
Reason why I ask is I want my archers to charge up that ramp after they run out of bolts since they're useless in the back. The problem with telling all the archers/xboxmen to charge is that some may still have bolts... and clog up the ladder traffic. That and I want them to get killed/knocked out so I can have my reinforcements spawn with archers who actually have arrows and are useful.
Reason why I ask is I want my archers to charge up that ramp after they run out of bolts since they're useless in the back. The problem with telling all the archers/xboxmen to charge is that some may still have bolts... and clog up the ladder traffic. That and I want them to get killed/knocked out so I can have my reinforcements spawn with archers who actually have arrows and are useful.
Aetavicus
Squire
There is still a problem with Dynamic Groups for me, when you give an order to infantry, any dismounted cavalry will briefly change back to the cavalry group before changing back to infantry. (You can see it using the minimap, infantry icon (brown) changes to cavalry (green) for a second before turning brown again.) Thus, the command you gave to cavalry will apply to them as well.
reaver456
Veteran
Babaganoush said:
It can be implemented for seiges. But the reason why it wasn't added by default is because during a defensive siege your archers will make a b line for your infantry group as soon as they run out of ammo. But as you may or may not know archers on the defensive side of a siege will get their ammo refilled after they run out of ammo.
Aetavicus said:
Did you use the updated dynamic group code? But yes I noticed they do flash back to calvary for a split second but then go right back to the infantry group and follow what ever your infantry group is doing. That what happens for me anyways.
never mind just checked the file for the missons template on the first page it is the updated code.
This is unfortunately the game engine acting up. The devs said they hadn't tested the operation/command I am using and it seems this is a "hiccup" in that operation.Aetavicus said:
To reduce the amount you notice this, you could change the
1.000000
to something smaller, such as
0.500000
as that is the interval (in seconds) with which the tweak code checks that agents are staying in their coded divisions. Making that number too small (the check too frequent) may have a negative impact on your performance, however.
Is there no way to add some of the features of diplomacy in this mod? I think it would be great to have more diplomatic options in this mod. There is a lot lacking because of the lack of diplomatic options and other interactions between lords and such that diplomacy offers. Also, the recruitment mod in diplomacy would be a great help. Is there anyway to implement that?
reaver456
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No diplomacy isnt compatible with PoP. Probably could be implemented but with all the coding changes in PoP it be very difficult and it be like trying to create an entirely new mod in its self. Also no one but the devs have access to the source code so none of us will be able to implement it as well.
Also you can auto recruit troops from villages that you own by talking to your town or castle steward. Doesn't spawn a physical recruiting party but has the same function and if you have a training grounds built at your fief those recruits will auto upgrade over time as well.
Also you can auto recruit troops from villages that you own by talking to your town or castle steward. Doesn't spawn a physical recruiting party but has the same function and if you have a training grounds built at your fief those recruits will auto upgrade over time as well.
