New Armour that you would like

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Carolus said:
@Lancien
We dont play in an age where guns are a viable infantry weapon. And it were muskets already which made armor obselete.

Well, when you're talking about Landsknechts and people only wearing plate, firearms were a viable infantry option! (Which is kind of what I was responding to.)

And to counter-nit-pick, "in the age we play in", I present to you, good sir: Crecy!

 
Gunpowder wasn't that easy to handle back then.
They stablized it with a bunch of things. In the process
of stabilizing it they also weakened it.
 
Lancien said:
Carolus said:
@Lancien
We dont play in an age where guns are a viable infantry weapon. And it were muskets already which made armor obselete.

Well, when you're talking about Landsknechts and people only wearing plate, firearms were a viable infantry option! (Which is kind of what I was responding to.)

And to counter-nit-pick, "in the age we play in", I present to you, good sir: Crecy!

Gothic plates where said to have been able to stop an early musket ball. Dunno how true that is at all...

I know about Crecy. Its been about a century before MnB, isnt it?
 
Wouldn't have a doubt that plate would be able to stop the shoddy hip-fired "boomsticks" that were lit like firecrackers. A proper arquebus? I doubt it, at the proper range (that is, quite short)
 
Yepp, y else should Napoleonic cuirassiers have worn breastplates (without mail) and THEY faced muskets and rifles. But none is listening to meee...  :razz:
 
http://www.armorvenue.com/medieval-armor/arming-jacket/
Basically it was used under armor, but i would wanna see it in game,to be in use i as normal clothing.It was also used in sowrd excersises, so maybe in arena fights and in training grounds,where you are normaly naked, you would now wear this arming jacket.

http://www.armorvenue.com/medieval-helmets/medieval-comb-morion-engraved-helmet/ Also these helmets would do nicely...
http://www.armorvenue.com/medieval-helmets/barrel-helmet/
http://www.armorvenue.com/medieval-helmets/norman-medieval-helmet/
 
Yeah, maybe it is...

I'm having difficulties on how to put new armors or items in one of the mods, so maybe there already are those items  :???:  :grin:

Still this jack could be used in training grounds or in arena.
 
Carolus said:
Yepp, y else should Napoleonic cuirassiers have worn breastplates (without mail) and THEY faced muskets and rifles. But none is listening to meee...  :razz:

Cuirassers were melee cavalry.  They - like most cavalry - were never intended to trade gunfire with an enemy.  They were intended to get in close and use their swords against the swords of other cavalry, or bayonets of infantry.
In such melee, the cuirass became a real advantage.

Against musketry or even pistol-fire it was useless, since their horses were unarmoured, and much bigger targets.  Infantrymen were trained or ordered to aim at the horses most of the time for the simple reason that the bigger target was easier to hit.  The trooper's breastplate would be no help if his horse was shot.
 
CrazyEyes said:
Why would you have a breastplate and no chain?

because on the later (16th century+) quarter style plate armours chain was no longer seen as necessary and was in some circles considered a hindrance, it was faster and more economical to produce mass production style plate armours than it was to produce chain on a large scale, Brussels was very much the center for mass production. they used very advanced techniques in its production. as i am sure we all know how labor intensive making maile can be especially considering no automation existed for riveting or joining the links. however by the late 16th mass production of plate was becoming easier.

it also had to be said that due to the weapons of the day, maile was almost ineffective against the more recent weapons being used.
 
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I would like to see something like the gothic 2 paladin armor in Mount & Blade. Mainly because i have very fond memories of the first mentioned game.
 
Grimsbo said:
I would like to see something like the gothic 2 paladin armor in Mount & Blade. Mainly because i have very fond memories of the first mentioned game.

Dont support...

I would rather also see leather breastplateshttp://www.medievalcollectibles.com/14th-century-leather-breastplate-2573.html]//http://www.medievalcollectibles.com/14th-century-leather-breastplate-2573.html]http://www.medievalcollectibles.com/14th-century-leather-breastplate-2573.html Here is a picture of a 14th century leather breastplate
- a leather brigandine http://www.realmcollections.com/images/p/Clothing_Leather_Brigandine_M100402_2357.jpg
- Medieval Jerkin with Buckles brown http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://maskworld.scene7.com/is/image/maskworld/104363-mittelalter-wams-schnallen-braun-medieval-jerkin-brown-buckles-brown%3F%24thumbnail%24&imgrefurl=http://www.maskworld.com/english/products/costumes/costume-component-parts--250/doublets-jerkins--2500&usg=__71q6o9mhkcuhDhfK6zYCRa3bzRo=&h=156&w=115&sz=3&hl=sl&start=29&um=1&tbnid=EyWJbF5y3mQbXM:&tbnh=97&tbnw=72&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dleather%2Bjerkin%2Bmedieval%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dsl%26rlz%3D1T4SUNA_enSI284SI285%26sa%3DN
-Cotehardie http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://maskworld.scene7.com/is/image/maskworld/104363-mittelalter-wams-schnallen-braun-medieval-jerkin-brown-buckles-brown%3F%24thumbnail%24&imgrefurl=http://www.maskworld.com/english/products/costumes/costume-component-parts--250/doublets-jerkins--2500&usg=__71q6o9mhkcuhDhfK6zYCRa3bzRo=&h=156&w=115&sz=3&hl=sl&start=29&um=1&tbnid=EyWJbF5y3mQbXM:&tbnh=97&tbnw=72&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dleather%2Bjerkin%2Bmedieval%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dsl%26rlz%3D1T4SUNA_enSI284SI285%26sa%3DN

-All type of armors with leather in it should also have dark leather armors.Same for leather boots, gloves,helms and caps...
Same goes for Dark steel...

These stuff are for archers,or light infarty.Dont like to see them in heavy armors (maybe one type of crossbowmens can have heavy,other ranged units,should be light or medium eqipped...)
Also, we lack of varieties of armors and clothing(for all units), so different units dont differ beetwen each other much (what i really miss)

How are we supposed to implement regional units, if they even wouldnt differ much beetwen???
 
Because you screwed up the links.

The first one should look like this:

http://www.medievalcollectibles.com/14th-century-leather-breastplate-2573.html

And should work.

The last one like this:

http://maskworld.scene7.com/is/image/maskworld/104363-mittelalter-wams-schnallen-braun-medieval-jerkin-brown-buckles-brown

The one for the brigandine didn't work, and you posted the same links for both "cotehardie", and "medieval Jerkin with buckles brown". The second one in my post.

When you try to link something, be sure to get the link right and only post it once. You've posted the first one three times in a row, which screws it up, when clicking on it. And when using google, remove the frame before copying the link.

What with a cotehardie being a piece of clothing, rather similar to a short robe, I'm guessing that one is the wrong term too.
 
How about some English Civil War coats?
The current studded leather coat would be a good starting point.  A buff-leather or grey-wool texture, maybe add a ruff at the neck, and an optional powder/shot bag or belt over one shoulder?

And maybe a 'musketeer' style tabard?  I'm not sure how common these were outside the 3 musketeer films, but they look good and could be set to the tableau textures, so that each lord's badge appears on the tabard.
 
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