That doesn't change the situation whatsoever, so it doesn't make a difference at this particular moment. UK would then go through 1st based on Rounds Won.
Yeah, I couldn't see it in the rules either.Bauglir said:I might be blind but I don't find it from the rules. That if 2 team won same amount of matches, then the one with more round wins would be 1st in the group
Yea,agree that there isn't such rule.So what the problem?UK was 1st place and Russia win team from first place then Russia should be 1st.Bauglir said:I might be blind but I don't find it from the rules. That if 2 team won same amount of matches, then the one with more round wins would be 1st in the group
Captain Lust said:Yeah, I couldn't see it in the rules either.Bauglir said:I might be blind but I don't find it from the rules. That if 2 team won same amount of matches, then the one with more round wins would be 1st in the group
Nobody cares. Some american decided that UK takes first place. When captain of russian team and a lot of respected members of our community pointed out that its not fair and gave another option they were simply totally ignored. Because there are no arguments from admin's side to give. Really pathetic behaviour. Sad that russians let **** on them. And then some guys whine " why ae holds every tourney". Because when other people are in charge **** like this happens(take another example-last nations 5aside with our folms admin).Dreaon said:Captain Lust said:Yeah, I couldn't see it in the rules either.Bauglir said:I might be blind but I don't find it from the rules. That if 2 team won same amount of matches, then the one with more round wins would be 1st in the group
Oh really, there isn't such a rule, is there?
It could also be decisive
1. Points
2. Result of the direct encounter (if two teams have the same amount of points)
3. Rounds won in total (if two teams have the same amount of points AND played a draw with each other)
What would be wrong with that?
So, either way, it's ****ed up now. Now, Russia got a disadvantage, the other way, it would be the same for UK.
Maybe, the fairest thing would even be, to decide it by fortune who gets the first place.
Anyway, for the future I suggest you to make clear rules and to think ahead about some possibilities. It should be decided beforehand, what happens if two teams got the same amount of points and how to deal with those tiebreakers (which aren't really needed in the end)
We have one unhappy team now I think and this occured due to the lack of clear rules.
yolka said:Nobody cares. Some american decided that UK takes first place. When captain of russian team and a lot of respected members of our community pointed out that its not fair and gave another option they were simply totally ignored. Because there are no arguments from admin's side to give. Really pathetic behaviour. Sad that russians let **** on them. And then some guys whine " why ae holds every tourney". Because when other people are in charge **** like this happens(take another example-last nations 5aside with our folms admin).Dreaon said:Captain Lust said:Yeah, I couldn't see it in the rules either.Bauglir said:I might be blind but I don't find it from the rules. That if 2 team won same amount of matches, then the one with more round wins would be 1st in the group
Oh really, there isn't such a rule, is there?
It could also be decisive
1. Points
2. Result of the direct encounter (if two teams have the same amount of points)
3. Rounds won in total (if two teams have the same amount of points AND played a draw with each other)
What would be wrong with that?
So, either way, it's ****ed up now. Now, Russia got a disadvantage, the other way, it would be the same for UK.
Maybe, the fairest thing would even be, to decide it by fortune who gets the first place.
Anyway, for the future I suggest you to make clear rules and to think ahead about some possibilities. It should be decided beforehand, what happens if two teams got the same amount of points and how to deal with those tiebreakers (which aren't really needed in the end)
We have one unhappy team now I think and this occured due to the lack of clear rules.
Everyone understands that what was done isnt right but admins wont do **** about it because they simply dont give a **** about participants. These participants dont even deserve the answer and all other suggestions from respected members have to be ignored even though they are much more logical. Shame on you.
yolka said:"I don't understand how match can end with 8:8 and 1 team wins. If we look at any sport(hockey, football..) the team that wins the tiebraker will get an extra point to make them win. This would make the score 9:8 and the team with 9 will win.
yolka said:So I suggest adding 1 point to the winning team only to make it logical." -Cybran(member of CZE)
yolka said:Of course, but I doubt it's fair for Russia right now. This wasn't in rules before match was played, so it's unfair, if it affects any matches (mainly RUS vs. UK) in past.
yolka said:I totally agree with this. There has to be a winner, and it makes no sense that Russia won with score 8:8. For example in ice hockey shootout game, if the score is 4-4 before shootout game and other team makes 3 goals in it and other one 2. The score in the end is 5-4 to the one who won the shootout game." -Bauglir(member of FIN)
yolka said:"+1
And if that is not going to happen, at least share the points received from a tie-braker game so that the winning team gets two points and the losing team gets one point. Imo its quite unfair for the losing team that they get no points if they lose in a tie-breaker..." -Dopey(member of FIN)
yolka said:"Also don't think that it is the best solution to count a match as 8-8 but awarding one team with 3 points as some others already pointed out, doesn't really make sense. In my opinion, you should either let every round count, also the tie breaker rounds, or you should count the match as draw. " -Scar(referee)
yolka said:"I agree that there needs to be some clarification on this subject, but there most likely won't be any changes in this particular case. There is no rule stating that tiebreaker rounds count towards the total amount of rounds in the end summation. There have been previous situations with tiebreakers and in all of those cases, the tiebreaker has been added into the final score count." -Watly(admin in past)
yolka said:None of them can be biased, its obvious, they are neutral and see the situation objectivly.
yolka said:Now. Please, tell me whats wrong with you?
yolka said:Name me at least ONE ******** guy who said that what you did is good decision.
yolka said:The only guys who approved your decision were from UK NC team,
yolka said:so please dont lie.
yolka said:There was not a signle guy who said that you were right.
yolka said:But you dont give a ****, you ignored all these posts and did as you wanted to, then you answered only to mine, there were no arguments from you at all before my post.
yolka said:Its even funny now.
yolka said:About folms i dont want to talk since he isnt our topic, but his decision in nations-5-a-side's semis has truly shown what he is as admin.
yolka said:So, can anyone explain, why this guy's voice counts more than all others? Simply because he volountereed as admin?
Maximka said:mr.x
And who of you who loves?
Lust you or did you
and do not you see that those who took 1st place provide a more simple way more)
and you're ruining the game stupidly its finding on this post
Alene said:I admit I don't understand.
Why would 9:8 score be unfair (1 point added to the team who won tiebreaker)? You said because unequal rounds was played, but I don't understand how that would be unfair. Draw rounds create that 1 point difference as well, only subrtacted instead being added.