NordArcher
Sergeant at Arms
Anyways, i'm off. Good night everyone.
Do us all a favor and stay that way.NordArcher said:Anyways, i'm off.
NordArcher said:Pillock said:NordArcher said:Archonsod said:To paraphrase, America is the only nation to have a dream. That's because the rest of us are awake.
They make europeans dream too. If you saw current teenager's oppinions about America and consummerism you wouldn't say we're awake.
Okay, two problems with this post. First of all, if you're getting your facts from America's teenagers it's time to re-think your stance on life.
Second, if America and Europe aren't good enough for you, where are you getting this stuff? El Salvador?
I was speaking about european teens. What stuff?
RalliX said:On-topic, I think the main problem with the 'American dream' is that of constantly needing to consume more instead of being content with what you have. What kind of dream or goal has you striving to expand unceasingly even after accomplishing your original goal.
Well I've plans to get rich and then begin engaging in philanthropy. Dunno see how your idea is any better.kiarj said:RalliX said:On-topic, I think the main problem with the 'American dream' is that of constantly needing to consume more instead of being content with what you have. What kind of dream or goal has you striving to expand unceasingly even after accomplishing your original goal.
I agree completely. I've plans to have everything I need, and then somethings I don't, but running after more than I can use is laughable.
gamerwiz09 said:Well I've plans to get rich and then begin engaging in philanthropy. Dunno see how your idea is any better.
To quote, "There's nothing stupid some foreigner won't try somewhere"NordArcher said:They make europeans dream too. If you saw current teenager's oppinions about America and consummerism you wouldn't say we're awake.
NordArcher said:Cool. When i get mad i do this kind of stuff instead of punching doors. I broke the fifth metacarp once for punching a door.
NordArcher said:I felt like i could ragequit from human society at that moment.
RalliX said:On-topic, I think the main problem with the 'American dream' is that of constantly needing to consume more instead of being content with what you have. What kind of dream or goal has you striving to expand unceasingly even after accomplishing your original goal.
Swadius said:There's an old phrase around these parts about ejecting oneself from the human race by means of a bullet with many people rejoicing afterwards.NordArcher said:I felt like i could ragequit from human society at that moment.
tyrannicide said:That's as may be, and snark retorts the like of which this thread is filled with may be fun and all.
But setting the matter of what consequences one draws at a personal level (biting the bullet, boxing walls or making little changes) aside, isn't the gist of his statements regarding the world sound? I think it is.
Sure, one can accommodate to it, more or less, but compared to how great a place the world could be to live in, what with all the knowledge we possess and the potential for pleasure our bodies hold, the world as it is is a ****hole. Relatively speaking. Dontch'all think?
Swadius said:tyrannicide said:That's as may be, and snark retorts the like of which this thread is filled with may be fun and all.
But setting the matter of what consequences one draws at a personal level (biting the bullet, boxing walls or making little changes) aside, isn't the gist of his statements regarding the world sound? I think it is.
What about the suggestion made by someone in this thread that his outrage at consumerism/government is merely a guise for his actual outrage at what human nature gravitates towards? I think he might be on to something when he says that a majority of people seek material wealth, but his reasoning for this being bad is lacking.
It may certainly seem so, but then again methinks one can find just as many examples to the contrary.Swadius said:I think human beings can do a lot of things well, and that treating each other like **** is one of our cardinal trademarks.Sure, one can accommodate to it, more or less, but compared to how great a place the world could be to live in, what with all the knowledge we possess and the potential for pleasure our bodies hold, the world as it is is a ****hole. Relatively speaking. Dontch'all think?
NordArcher said:The fact that they go for a comfortable life is exactly what makes me angry.
You should be shot. 'The American Dream' is a wonderful concept. Why do you hate freedom?Familyguy1 said:Oh god not one of these again, you do realize that most Americans dont give a **** about the "dream" anymore....we realized it was stupid a long time ago..
QuailLover said:I find it funny that he thinks the average person in the US drives over 37 miles to get to work. Most people do live near where they work.
Noddin said:Capitalism is founded on competition. When we lose competition in favor of Oligarchies, then we no longer have capitalism.
While I wouldn't necessarily disagree, what makes them happy is neither mine nor yours to decide. A step towards telling people how they should be happy is a step in the wrong direction, no matter how pure your intentions may be.NordArcher said:My problem with consummerism is that it seems completely pointless. People are forced to believe that having a flatscreen and buying clothes every month will certainly make them happy. Well, it does get them happy. But what kind of happiness is that?