Whatever you choose, don't voice it here. No point in giving the wolves any information they can use. Your decisions are yours, and yours alone.
FrisianDude said:what why are our villains popping back from the dread?
I have to admit to a suspicion as to who did it. Suffice it to say for now; I did some moseying around. Great. What a ****ty night for the village. If I read my night well, I think some attempt was made on me. No results, but a peculiar 'dream'. And the investi-Moose is dead as well. Nonetheless; Grim's a creep and Trevty a crook. By my interpretation; one player here, as Trevty's boss, resurrected her. Magorian. you got any ideas how such a someone might be caught?
Shatari said:Well, that certainly adds a bit more weight to your story. Who else have you followed?
Shatari said:Alright, so that means (if you're telling the truth (and I don't see what you would gain for lying)) Hitson wasn't the person who was following me that night, so either we have two blockers or Hitson's story is bogus.
Shatari said:Yeah, it was likely a one time power for dodging the lynch. It's a pity he wasted the lynch, but I think it underlines his guilt: An innocent would have warned us of the ability so that we would at least have some warning.
Shatari said:False. Moose was blocked when he tried to inspect me. As a result I am not cleared.Lord Brutus said:I guess, by implication, Moose is telling us, if we believe him, that Shatari is an innocent.
The post in question is here. Note that it is possible for us to have more than one type of blocker, it just seems an odd thing to admit.Moose! said:I also tend to buy into the story that Grimmend attacking Wolfhead is an attempt to get a noob wolf to shut up, and in light of Burgess' deception (can you point me to that post by the way), I think we have a strong case against this pack.
Shatari said:For the safety of the village I'd recommend we proceed with "Shatari isn't cleared". It doesn't hurt me, and it leaves the village safe from any false positives. (Seriously, two of my recent wolf wins have been due to the village believing me to be innocent. Don't. It's a bad habit, no matter who you're trusting.)
Shatari said:Not to mention that he dropped his vote where it wasn't going to do any good. Trevty wasn't in danger of being lynched last night, so Fishy could park a vote on him safely without having to worry about killing a packy (or an innocent, in Grimm turns out to just be frustratingly bad at playing an innocent this game).
Shatari said:I'll try and make a post later today, but currently I've got farm work taking my my free time.
I would like to say that I agree with Mag about doubting Grimm's innocence (there was no pro-town motive to provide that much of a distraction for us, especially knowing that it could cost us a lynch), but the narrative does support the idea that he's just got a die roll chance to survive an attempt on his life. I think we can back burner him for a day without risking anything.
Shatari said:I don't think there's any doubt that Trevty is going to be dying soon. I'm honestly in favor of lynching him today, instead of waiting to see what Grimm really is. After all, either you're a wolf playing a bad gambit, or Trevty is a killer. I'm leaning towards the latter, and I want to remove him now just in case he has any secondary powers that we'll regret leaving in play.
Shatari said:Bull****. The first day can stay relevant throughout the entire game. That's when the wolves haven't talked to each other, haven't agreed on lynch targets, and haven't agreed on how to interact with one another. You've been trying to devalue 'Day 1' throughout this entire game, and I think it's very obvious now as to why.Trevty said:I think the first day is pretty irrelevant now.
Shatari said:I'd recommend Hitson or Grimm. I'm leading towards Hitson, since Grimm hasn't been keen on wolf hunting anyways. Hitson is replacing a suspicious character, but Hitson himself has been willing to wolf hunt and brought a lot of attention to Trevty that doesn't fall in line with what I would expect from a packmate.
Shatari said:Actually, I think Hulk might be a better bet. He's been bugging me for a while due to his passive bandwagoning and the fact that he never brings anything to the table, but this post here bugs me the most:
Either Moose is a wolf who wants to commit suicide, or we have a seer pointing us to a smoking gun. Why are you so non-committal? Further, while I can understand confusion on why Grimm is still alive, you're trying to avoid any sort of statement at all on the matter. I strongly think that you're a wolf.HULKSMASH said:Moose makes an interesting case for Trevty, he's higher up on my list of suspects than before, and I'm not sure how I feel about Grimmend dodging the Lynch.
Shatari said:Well, Hitson definitely made the most of himself with that sacrifice: That will clear up any doubt as to his role, and gives us the equivalent of a free lynch on a suspicious character.
I rather doubt the person who killed him is the same person who does the killing, so we will need to focus on finding a second female character to hunt. That means Frisian, Feragorn, Hulk, and myself all need extra scrutiny. I'm honestly leaning towards Hulk being a wolf, so I'll try and make a case about him tonight.
Shatari said:My biggest trouble with targeting Grimmend first is that one of the two female wolves sounds a lot like a converter in the narration. I would rather leave a killer loose over a converter, or else they'll have a lot more control of the lynch when we go pruning our female population.
Shatari said:I've bolded the more obvious parts, but even if she can only control who you vote for then she's still very dangerous.Vieira said:"We wished for your aid, in our cause. But you seemed oddly..." the green eyed woman tilted her head to one side, looking thoughtfully towards her, "resistant to our methods."
"Perhaps I have been too lenient on this one." The woman Maevah knew gave her a dangerous smile as Green Eyes nodded. "I think I shall be more... strict on our future subjects."
She strode towards Maevah, as Green Eyes watched on. Stuck to the spot, Maevah could do nothing as the woman laid her hand upon her head. Maevah felt a strange tingle in her head again.
"I could make you do whatever I want, could I not?"
"Yes, mistress." Maevah went to her knees, head touched the floor. "Whatever you please." Anything to serve her mistress.
"Good. At least I can see this still works. I am still terribly surprised you were resistant. I have no need of you anymore, however." A gateway opened behind Green Eyes, and a man stepped in. He wore dark clothing, that went with his dark hair and dark eyes. The women nodded as he walked up towards Maevah. Maevah stayed strong, and looked him in the chin.
Shatari said:But again, that was a killer, not the potential converter. We have two female villains, and one male (that we know of, anyways). If there is a chance that we have a female converter, then we need to focus heavily on taking her out asap. They both reduce our innocent count by one every night, but a converter would also gives them a vote and a voice to work with, and prevents us from being able to trust anyone for long. (Moose is an innocent now, but will he be innocent tomorrow?) Again, I think still think Grimm is a wolf, but he's probably the least dangerous wolf in the pack.
Shatari said:I don't believe we have any real way to answer that. The narrative appears to place them on the same team.Moose! said:Would a converter be separate from a Darkfiend?
Shatari said:Two injuries will kill you, so it may be best to investigate the one you suspect the least. It still clears them, and it gives us a chance to have you use your ability again.
@Mag: I still think we're better off going for the definite wolf tonight, and Grimm tomorrow. I admit we can't take his word for how his power works, but I just think it would be over powered for him to be able to dodge the lynch twice just because he put a day between them.
Shatari said:With the deadline coming up tomorrow, I'm going to go ahead and Vote: Trevty. If we have a blocker then Grimm would be a good choice for blocking, and we can focus on him tomorrow (unless a more pressing matter develops). After that I strongly recommend we focus on finding the other female wolf. Hitson may have had a role that made him hard to control, and we shouldn't bet on the next target being that lucky. Or that he was their only target so far, since we're two nights in.
Magorian Aximand said:A "head honcho" wolf who chose to heal, wait for it, the seer.
Trevty said:You know what? I think we're all the wolves of misery to ourselves. We should stop this silly game and sing kumbaya.