Trevty said:
Magorian Aximand said:
So position four on both bandwagons is held by SS, so we can rule that one out. And three on day one is Moose!, who appears to be pretty genuine. Only three on day two stands out, especially in light of recent events. That's Trevty, and the situation surrounding the vote seems to add to the case against him. There were two votes on Trevty (Hitson, Fishy), and two votes on Grimmend (Moose, Shatari). Not only was the Grimmend wagon easy to jump on, but it was in his best interests. I don't think the village would have agreed to vote for him, but he was tied for the lead in votes. That's enough to panic a first time wolf. I also don't think this necessarily means that they're not packmates, as self preservation is still a motivating factor when choosing between your own death and that of a teammate.
I don't see any problem with this. Of course I wouldn't vote for myself, I know my own innocence, but it was too late in the day to go for my other choice (the now cleared) Burgass. With the lack of activity on Day 2, it was a miracle in and of itself that we managed to get some kind of lynch at all. And, as I said before, I thought I wouldn't have another chance to change my vote later (though, I now know I could have changed it, but hindsight is 20/20 and all that) so it seemed best to work towards ensuring a lynch rather than just hoping someone else would show up and do it.
I agree that, had I done this analysis earlier, I wouldn't have built a case on you based only on this. It's not as much of a smoking gun as Frisian's vote. But it would have caught my eye, and I would have pressured you about it. In light of all of the other evidence against you, however, this is particularly damning. It adds up. This vote shouldn't be looked at in a vacuum.
Shatari said:
Or that he was their only target so far, since we're two nights in.
It looks to me like he was targeted both nights. He was injured at the end of day two, and he specifies that he was targeted night one. Mix that with the injury that killed him today, and I think that's a safe bet.
FrisianDude said:
I'm sorry Magorian, are you genuinely using "I was there" as an argument? How should I know you were actually there? Leaving a tab open means the game looks as if you're still reading it, just having posted can easily mean you've gone away again. As ludicrous as it may sound, this game is not about you. Whether you were there or not is decidedly irrelevant and incredibly petty to bring up as an argument.
Magorian Aximand said:
At the beginning of this day, he demonstrates how closely he's reading by, after I said "I have quite a lot to say about Fris as well, stuff I find really rather convincing, but it doesn't exactly line up with the prevailing theory. Unless there's a pack of four. I'll look into his interactions with the other three while I'm at it.", he asks, "Magorian, what makes you think I'm with Trev, Hitson and Grimmend? "
Really?
Not to mention, really really? You said "unless there's a pack of four" and I wanted an explanation of why that seems more likely to you than the prevailing theory. I thought you thought the pack of four more likely because of "stuff I find really rather convincing." Something you've never addressed except to be snide about it now. Don't say "really"when you should say "that's not how I meant what I said".
Thank you for such a beautiful demonstration of my point.
I didn't expect you to infer I was there by seeing my name (as if you could, I'm hidden) or by the fact that I had posted, and I can't fathom why you think I would think that. I expected you to know that I was there and going to vote at the deadline
because that's what I said I would do, explicitly. So my point is that you showed up just to throw a vote it, without bothering to read the thread with any kind of serious attention. You admit this when you said that you assumed I had already voted, despite the fact that I said I hadn't and there was a vote count on the same page. This is the same nonsense I nailed Pillock and Icy Fresh Werewolf for in Quail's game. Verbatim.
And you continue as you go on here. I said I there were things about you I found convincing
but it doesn't exactly line up with the prevailing theory. Doesn't. And I continue: "I'll look into his interactions with the other three while I'm at it." As in I haven't seen anything in their interactions, and I need to go look at them. How on earth did you get, from that, that I currently thought the four of you were a pack? I still need to do that analysis, but you're doing a darn fine job of condemning yourself as we speak.
I still think we're making a mistake not going for Grimmend today. I haven't had the time to check into that role for Shatari, and I'm going to be gone the rest of the night. I should be around for the deadline tomorrow morning, so I'll change my vote then if things don't shift overnight. I know I've seen a role like that before, and I think it's insane that people are trusting Grimmend's claim of his abilities when they clearly don't trust him as a player. Insane.
