Bug Reports and known issues v2.4

[Parhelion]

Minor exploit:
It seems that regardless of what you choose in character creation, if you go to the Camp menu and select "Modify your noble banner", you can auto-promote yourself to nobility and get your flag immediately.

Not sure if this is intended or not.  I consider it an exploit because it defeats the purpose of choosing "impoverished noble" at char gen as opposed to builds that may be a bit stronger at game-start. 

Perhaps this option can be removed until the character earns a banner, OR it could be used to set a default banner for when a player finally earns one?

[Parhelion]

My party was in a town before updating. After update, when I try to leave the town I get stuck on what appears to be a overview of towns with banks, and load/deposit info.

When I click return to menu, nothing happens.

edit: and worse yet, it auto saved. So now I can't export my char to a new save can I?

No one? Here is the save file:
http://www.2shared.com/file/kzobwkEL/sg00.html

edit: ok, so loading the backup save worked. I still got the weird bank screen, but this time "back to menu" button made me exit town.
It also doesn't happen anymore, so it was probably just save file issues.
edit2: Game crashed only seconds later >< So I guess I'll be starting a new game! No problem, as long as I can export my char.

This issue is now occurring with me, as well.  It's fairly game-breaking, considering if you don't have a backup save ready, you might as well start over.

I am using the Extended version, with a fresh new game.  Got in to about day 7, and took a "escort caravan" quest from Sargoth.  I get a few seconds out from the town and then get hit with the broken bank overview screen, which won't allow me to leave.  Given the timing, it looks like the game may have been trying to send me to a budget review instead (everyone loves getting paid!). 

Updated:   I noticed that the Bank review report is ALSO broken if you try to enter it from the Reports screen.

[Skorpa]

thanks Caba`drin  i will try that 

[Miko[PL]]

Yeah, the bank game breaker....can't play because of it 

[Nicholas Bell]

Savegame from 2.3 (from 2.1) is not going well at all with the Expanded Pack.   Unable to use the soundpack but dropped back to the 2.3 version and that solved the no load problem.

I was able to play a save from 2.3 without an issue, but had no 2.1 save to test. Definitely might be oddities there as there already were some oddities trying to use 2.1 saves with 2.3, unfortunately.

CTD every 4-5 minutes.  Very frustrating to report as there is no repeating event or action on part which causes it which might indicate why.  Just happens while moving on map.

What kind of crash to desktop? The screen freezes? You get a warband.exe has stopped responding? Or an RGL error?
Does this happen with a new game, too, or just your 2.1 save?

When asking a location of a person the buttons have text indicating the relationship level with the player.
Getting this type of text on screen and also in text windows:

Both of these are as designed. The first as an additional ease-of-use feature, the second is part of the extended vassal titles system where the titles also indicate prestige of the individual.

My crash problems are due to the savegame file - everything works fine when I start a new character (although I've not done much other than manage to lose battles and get captured).  I have not experienced the "bank" problem described above.

The crashes I did have because of the savegame non-compatibility where not screen freeze.  They were straight to the desktop with the win7 message about the failure of the warband exe.

Could you publish a dictionary of terms like "Kynaz-confero" and the other titles I see so we can know what they mean?

On a different note, the Hotfix A works fine.  However, it is interesting to note that the RGL Video Memory Error is intermittent for me.  In repeated testing I had two occasions where I had no problem at all loading the mod and playing.  But one out of four load attempts isn't worth my time so that is why I tried the Hotfix.

Dropping back to 2.3 to finish my current game.

[Caba`drin]

Minor exploit:
It seems that regardless of what you choose in character creation, if you go to the Camp menu and select "Modify your noble banner", you can auto-promote yourself to nobility and get your flag immediately.

Thanks for pointing this out. Definitely a bug.


@All
Will look at the code for the bank of Calradia...this was taken from Lazeras' additions and perhaps there is some coding mishap therein.

EDIT: It would appear that the debts variable for the bank in a town is the same as the variable that tracks whether you've set a fire in a town's nearby villages (for prison escapes). So that might be messing with some things.

The presentation code is a bit of a mess, so I'd believe it if sometimes the "exit" button worked and sometimes it didn't. Rewriting it now.


EDIT #2: FIX to allow Bank Presentation Exiting
1. Open presentations.txt
2. Find prsnt_bank_quickview
3. Replace all of the code numbers in its block with the following:

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4. Save. Restart the game. The botton, Escape, and Backspace should now get you out of the Bank screen.

[Shingles]

First time poster, big fan of the floris mod pack.

The "back to menu" buttons don't work in many of the "Reports" or "Camp" menus. It doesn't cause a crash, I'm just stuck staring at the page.

Under Reports: "View Bank Report", "View Companions Overview"

Currently installed are the Expanded Mod pack and separately the "More Metal Sounds" mod.

wicked job though, keep up the updates


*Edit 1: I first thought none of the "back to menu" buttons worked, but I'm looking through them now, updating the list as I go along.
*Edit 2: Just two menu buttons in Reports don't work, Camp is fine.

[Moaner]

Hello. I can't download either of the hotfixes mentioned in the first post, as the site where they are hosted won't let me (it thinks that I am already downloading something, I don't know why). Are they hosted anywhere else?

[Scully]

No offense intended, but do you have people test the mod before release? Some of these bugs shouldn't be present if someone tested it. I volunteer for testing 2.5

[Redbullmass]

Hey, i downloaded the patch to go from 2.3 to 2.4 and now i have a little problem. I played for an hour or so without any problem and then, after coming out of a battle, the song which was playing when i left the world map had froze and it created a looping sound which is fixed to the sound of footsteps made by bandits, other parties and myself. When in any kind of menu (village, city, camp, inventory,etc) and when i'm not moving on the world map the sound isn't there. I can also clearly hear the sound several times when other parties are moving near me. All the other sounds are still there but they're covered by that looping sound. I tried playing native and everything is fine. Same goes for 2.3, but as soon as install 2.4 the sound is back. I tried to play with music disabled just in case but no luck Any ideas what might be the problem?

[RomanGuy]

Hey I have been playing for a little while with your mod and recently updated from 2.3 ro 2.4.  I noticed that the number of troops in castle and city garrisons has more than doubled in most places.  Was this intended? Or a bug of some kind?

It is kind of hard to take a city with 1000 troops in it, you just about need every lord in the country to attack one city. 

[Miko[PL]]

No offense intended, but do you have people test the mod before release? Some of these bugs shouldn't be present if someone tested it. I volunteer for testing 2.5

Yeah, someone should test things before it gets released to the public.
Assemble a squad of 6 or so dedicated beta testers and you'll be good to go.

[pada]

Hey I have been playing for a little while with your mod and recently updated from 2.3 ro 2.4.  I noticed that the number of troops in castle and city garrisons has more than doubled in most places.  Was this intended? Or a bug of some kind?

It is kind of hard to take a city with 1000 troops in it, you just about need every lord in the country to attack one city.

I notice the kings now have 500+ man armies, lords are so far 50-250, and with my sub-mod im hitting 450 in castles and 1000 in towns. So far, I am liking these troop numbers, but I am curious too if they are inline with what floris 2.4 is spawning without my submod.

[Caba`drin]

No offense intended, but do you have people test the mod before release? Some of these bugs shouldn't be present if someone tested it. I volunteer for testing 2.5

Yeah, someone should test things before it gets released to the public.
Assemble a squad of 6 or so dedicated beta testers and you'll be good to go.

We thoroughly test every bit of code that the team itself writes explicitly for Floris (for 2.4, things like sea trade, weather-related ranged weapon penalties, the integrated options screen, the new features from PBOD such as the reworked deathcamera system, etc).

In addition to that, we make the sometimes mistaken assumption that the mini-mods/scripts/codes that others release for use have been tested and are working as described (the bank and companion presentations, for instance).

Finally, we do a number of tests to be sure the mod will start and there are no obvious script errors, etc. (This found the sounds.txt issue that some run into and had us ready with a variety of files for individuals to try.) But we can only test so many situations in a timely fashion.

It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Wait too long with testing and people increasingly complain that there is no release...and we want to work more of the in-process features in, which makes for more testing and more waiting. Do as I have described in an effort to get a delayed version out as soon as we can, and the appearance of a few bugs brings on the complaints and insinuations that we don't bother to test anything.

Some modicum of attempted understanding would be appreciated. This time around, we intend on releasing small bugfixes before the next major version, so as more bugs are reported, we'll gather them into some fixes here.

[Nicholas Bell]

Not that Caba`drin needs me to defend him, but folks please just report the problem, when it happens, and what your setup is.  The opinions on how, what and why the team does or doesn't do something are of no help.  These are a group of talented, intelligent people who are volunteering their time and efforts to create this masterpiece.   If you've ever done any modding or real world beta-testing yourself, you might understand how difficult it can be catch everything.  With something you have paid for you can complain all you want to the publisher.  But remember, you're getting all this goodness for free.