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Waihti said:

arcadiazone said:

on starting new game with diplomacy v2.24 i get these errors

scrip error on opcode 2343: invalid Faction ID;1 line NO:3:
at script: Update_troop location_poles_prisoned

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probably  a native bug

SandmanX2 said:

I keep getting this red error:

SCRIPT ERROR ON OPT CODE 2281
INVALID Party ID: 266; LINE NO: 35: At simple trigger At simple trigger
No 83
No 83

Thats how its exactly appears, Ive been getting this since the mod updated to 2.0 version

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same

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lactose_the_intolerant said:

it seems that everyone that gets that error has a problem with a mod file.

am i the only who get's that error who doesnt have a mod?

i just have mount and blade warband with no mods at all and i get that error! Can someone help me out plz?!

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Kinsume said:

I've seen a mod like that tried before. It doesn't turn out too pretty. The problem with mashing so many factions onto the map at once is all of the variables that take place at any given time. For something like that to work you'd need to have a type of alliance/war system put in place for players as well as the other factions. I believe the Diplomacy mod people are currently working on something of that nature. With that implementation then it may be possible to pull off. As for a new map though, the problem with that is the same problem that has always plagued map makers in Mount&Blade. The map's size is hardcoded. You can't make it any bigger or smaller, so you have a very limited amount of room to work with. It might look big now with only 6 factions on the map and you might say things like, "well theres plenty of open space here to put stuff" Yes in some cases that is true, however you can only do that so many times before it all becomes one big cluster****.

In any event, map making was the other section I planned on going into with the quest coding I'm currently learning. I'm somewhat hesitant because of the limitations of it, but i'll take a look at it and decide for sure. If I choose to go into it, I'll work on a map for you. I'll just need to know how many Towns/Villages/Castles you plan on having. If you implement the Watch Tower and Fort options from other mods, those could be placed on there as well. However those would need new scenes made with them for battles and visiting.

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Tokashi said:

ImpulseReflex said:

Kinsume said:

By the way, the troop numbers are way out of wack. I understand you're going for large battles and stuff like that, but you can't just up the player's troop numbers without upping the amount of morale we get per leadership as well. Keep in mind for every troop we have we lose 1 morale, so at like 200-300 days into the game when everyone else has armies in the 300-400 range size wise, we can only have maybe 200 troops without going into the negatives with morale.

Personally I have set my party sizes to these amounts...

AI Lords
20 Base
10 Per Leadership
20 Renown
100 bonus to faction leaders

Your Party
30 Base
10 Per Leadership
20 Renown
40 Morale per Leadership

The way this plays out is simple. Level 1 you'd have a party max size of about 70. 30base+30 from Leadership+5 for renown+5 I forgot what the last modifier was. Whatever. Then later on down the road at say 200-300 days when you're level 18 or so. 30base+70 from Leadership+(800/20=40) Renown+(Whatever that other modifier is. So thats about 140 max troops. Thats assuming you only have level 7 leadership by level 18, as well as only have 800 renown by level 18. Both are capable of being even higher than that with ease.

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As I said earlier, my experience reflects this. Armies get ridiculously huge for the AI, but hampered by moral, it become my 100 elite knights vs 1000 crap t1-3 guys.  I support this suggestion.


And yes, to those saying "just change the values yourself," we are capable of doing so. Just trying to offer advice so that the complete mod experience can be excellent even without tweaking.

Keep up the good work!

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Kinsume said:

Tokashi, that would make the problem even worse. We're trying to be able to field large armies without going too low morale wise.

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Read that, then read my post after his. I did not say make our renown high, I said make the lords renown per party slot high so that they do not get big armies. At some point their armies are huge.

Anyway I have set my renown per party member to 30. It is better for me anyway, I still own with a normal size army because of the crappy AI lord troop reinforcements (every mod got that same problem anyway)

arcadiazone said:

Thanks guys for all replies they all make sense, will tone down trops trees in next update as well as AI Lord Troop trees.

The relationship problem is with the diplomacy MOD, which has a few little bugs in it.
Another one is being unable to relocate Court when have own kingdom.

Am looking into the coding of my mod and diplomacy to try n fix

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What do you mean about toning down troop trees? Maybe give an example

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ImpulseReflex said:

Not sure where this bug lies, but when hosting feasts, the quest starts and completes itself usually before the day is out and any lord has a chance to come to the feast.

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Kinsume said:

Edit : The problem was caused by your mod. Something to do with your chanselor adding and stuff, it intertwined with the upgrade paths and such.

Edit 2 : It might be a good idea when meshing the mods together like you've been doing, to do the 81 Units last so that the linked troops don't get mixed up. The other mods might have different paths, which would overwrite the 81 Units troop trees. Which is probably what happened here.

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