Your Custom Knighthood Order(s)! (Possible Spoilers)
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seigfried
Recruit
Well, thanks to being sick all week I've basically been playing PoP nonstop and have finally gotten my CKHO to the point where they are extremely useful. Haven't seen Leth in about 5 or 6 months though, he's been nonstop training!
Here is the Army of the Meletine Empire!
Imperial Meletine Cataphracts:
Imperial Meletine Guards:
One question though, I was wondering why I can't equip my cataphracts with the Jatu Steppe Charger (I think it looks much cooler than the Meletine half-cataphract they have now.) I wasn't sure if there was a specific Jatu warlord I need to defeat and talk to to get these horses, or if they just weren't in the pool of available items for some reason. (And yes, my Cataphracts have a high enough riding skill.)
Here is my character:
This is what my cataphracts will eventually look like, just need to upgrade the helmet and am in the process of upgrading their swords to runed bastard swords and of course the horse (if possible) to a Jatu Steppe Charger.
As for the debate about using the editor and cheating and what not, I don't see the problem with it. Personally I try to cheat as little as possible, (maybe the occasional "loan" in times of crisis), but if people want to cheat they're really only ruining the game for themselves. I used to cheat a lot more, but it got to the point where I would get bored of a game after 50 days because I would already have an uber army, a few castles and a town, and more money than I knew what to do with. The only person the game gets ruined for when someone cheats is the cheater. Just my two cents though, not trying to criticize anyone or anything like that.
Here is the Army of the Meletine Empire!
Imperial Meletine Cataphracts:
Imperial Meletine Guards:
One question though, I was wondering why I can't equip my cataphracts with the Jatu Steppe Charger (I think it looks much cooler than the Meletine half-cataphract they have now.) I wasn't sure if there was a specific Jatu warlord I need to defeat and talk to to get these horses, or if they just weren't in the pool of available items for some reason. (And yes, my Cataphracts have a high enough riding skill.)
Here is my character:
This is what my cataphracts will eventually look like, just need to upgrade the helmet and am in the process of upgrading their swords to runed bastard swords and of course the horse (if possible) to a Jatu Steppe Charger.
As for the debate about using the editor and cheating and what not, I don't see the problem with it. Personally I try to cheat as little as possible, (maybe the occasional "loan" in times of crisis), but if people want to cheat they're really only ruining the game for themselves. I used to cheat a lot more, but it got to the point where I would get bored of a game after 50 days because I would already have an uber army, a few castles and a town, and more money than I knew what to do with. The only person the game gets ruined for when someone cheats is the cheater. Just my two cents though, not trying to criticize anyone or anything like that.
bishopbutters
Regular
AS far as I am aware the only items that can be used by the CMKHOs are flagged as Merchandise, even items you unlock (Maltise Asp Armor for example and Noldor items). If an item isn't flagged as Merchandise then it is likely you won't be able to use it (think Demon Charger, Havathang, Duskfall etc).
I just used Morgh's to check and the Jatu Steepe Charger is not flagged as merchandise, you probably won't be able to use them for you CMKHO. Editing it to be merchandise won't make it appear either, I tried with the Demon Charger just for fun to see if it would appear in the menus and it did not.
I just used Morgh's to check and the Jatu Steepe Charger is not flagged as merchandise, you probably won't be able to use them for you CMKHO. Editing it to be merchandise won't make it appear either, I tried with the Demon Charger just for fun to see if it would appear in the menus and it did not.
CrymsonChaos
Sergeant
I've just started 3.6. I'm not sure what order I should do. The name will be easy enough, but I was thinking a unit similar to KotEG as the sergeant unit, just to provide that edge in siege combat and a heavy mounted unit.
Out of curiosity, has anyone tried a foot troop only order with sergeants packing crossbows and plate armor with the knight troop similar to a Silvermist? I honestly believe that would make you ungodly in a siege.
Out of curiosity, has anyone tried a foot troop only order with sergeants packing crossbows and plate armor with the knight troop similar to a Silvermist? I honestly believe that would make you ungodly in a siege.
Malanthor
Squire
Iron Guard, Steel Legion, black guard or something would fit well for a KoteG wannabe order perhaps. 
I haven't decided on my own yet, so many different themes to go with.
Knight of the Stars, Templars of Astrea, Sentinels of <kingdom>, order of the eternal, sacred band, knights of the chalice, berserker lodge, order of the watch bla bla. So many concepts and so many cool ideas. <shakes head>
Personally I think it takes to long to upgrade stuff. Im with the team in having some fun for end game, something not easily achieved, but I guess we differ on where the line goes. I like to actually be able to play with my upgraded knight order before im done with the game. Id say a 25-50% cut in the time it takes would be appropriate. But hey, its just my opinion and how I play my game, not some universal truth im trying to force down other peoples throat. I assume it would be easy enough to change if one found the appropriate code and changed the necessary digits. Im assuming its some multiplication of the items value or something.
Anyway very cool concept which gives great freedom and possibilities.
I haven't decided on my own yet, so many different themes to go with.
Knight of the Stars, Templars of Astrea, Sentinels of <kingdom>, order of the eternal, sacred band, knights of the chalice, berserker lodge, order of the watch bla bla. So many concepts and so many cool ideas. <shakes head>
Personally I think it takes to long to upgrade stuff. Im with the team in having some fun for end game, something not easily achieved, but I guess we differ on where the line goes. I like to actually be able to play with my upgraded knight order before im done with the game. Id say a 25-50% cut in the time it takes would be appropriate. But hey, its just my opinion and how I play my game, not some universal truth im trying to force down other peoples throat. I assume it would be easy enough to change if one found the appropriate code and changed the necessary digits. Im assuming its some multiplication of the items value or something.
Anyway very cool concept which gives great freedom and possibilities.
bobknight
Sergeant at Arms
The problem is people wants uber elite knights with all the best gear and they expect to have it immediately. Which is stupid. If you build your order to the same level of gear quality as existing knights, you should have it up by about day 500 or 600 at the latest. 60-70 days for armour, 30 days for helm and gaunts (the 56 helm/ 6 guants are actually really cheap), 20-30 days for greaves, 100 days for weapons and another 40-50 for horse. With additional 20-30 days grace for other crap. This adds up to about 200-250 days. So when you start working on it at day 300 (pretty late), you'll finish by day 600. If you are like me and start really early, you should finish by day 300 tops. THEN you spend 100 days or so upgrading them to have the best armour/weapons etc. So that by day 800-900 (end game) you will have an end game unit with all the trimmings.
I created Order of the Adamant Knights
Adamant Templar
Adamant Sergeant
Just gota outfit them once I gain some cash. Peace is costing me.
Adamant Templar
Adamant Sergeant
Just gota outfit them once I gain some cash. Peace is costing me.
bishopbutters
Regular
Just got situated in my new game and finally created a new order legitly (since there was uproar about me want screenies ) They aren't done yet, not by a long shot. They need alot of training and upgrading.
Order of the Rising Hawk (Or Order of the Hawkeyes)
Knight = Hawk's Talon
Sergeant = Hawk's Eye
The point of this order was to create an archer's first order that can survive/thrive in melee/siege combat. The Runed Bastard Sword has good reach making it a great siege weapon and having a mace on the sergeants allows for taking alot of prisoners and blunting through heavy armor in sieges. Granted to object is to make sure the enemies never even reach them in the first place
I haven't worked out this order's backstory yet, just that they favor the Noldor and Silvermist Rangers (and consequently dislike the Knights of The Ebony Gauntlet). Beyond that I am still working out the story of the order. Sure I can just give them the best armor and weapons but I want to RP them correctly
) They aren't done yet, not by a long shot. They need alot of training and upgrading.Order of the Rising Hawk (Or Order of the Hawkeyes)
Knight = Hawk's Talon
1h Weapon (Runed Bastard is the target here)
Order Of The Griffon Kite (once I get around to it)
Hunting Bow (Once PD hits 6 that's a Noldor Bow)
Noldor Arrows
Order Of The Griffon Kite (once I get around to it
)Hunting Bow (Once PD hits 6 that's a Noldor Bow)
Noldor Arrows
Noldor Dark Warhorse (once riding is high enough)
Gold Plated Great Helm
Dragon Knight Plate
Ornate Plate Boots
Polished Steel Greaves
Gold Plated Great Helm
Dragon Knight Plate
Ornate Plate Boots
Polished Steel Greaves
Sergeant = Hawk's Eye
1h Weapon, most likely a Morningstar or Doom Mace)
Heavy Board Shield
Hunting Bow (Again, the Noldor Bow is the target here, but I will settle for a Long Composite)
Noldor Arrows
Heavy Board Shield
Hunting Bow (Again, the Noldor Bow is the target here, but I will settle for a Long Composite)
Noldor Arrows
Barbutte
Coat of Plates - Blue
Ornate Plate Boots
Polished Steel Gauntlets
Coat of Plates - Blue
Ornate Plate Boots
Polished Steel Gauntlets
The point of this order was to create an archer's first order that can survive/thrive in melee/siege combat. The Runed Bastard Sword has good reach making it a great siege weapon and having a mace on the sergeants allows for taking alot of prisoners and blunting through heavy armor in sieges. Granted to object is to make sure the enemies never even reach them in the first place
I haven't worked out this order's backstory yet, just that they favor the Noldor and Silvermist Rangers (and consequently dislike the Knights of The Ebony Gauntlet). Beyond that I am still working out the story of the order. Sure I can just give them the best armor and weapons but I want to RP them correctly
ms_ts_2007
Sergeant at Arms
A long multi part question... Your basic knights have some armor, they are not naked, I saw that, but do they have a certain basic default melee weapon too ? If so, can that be changed so that they have no melee weapon at all ? I want to loadout with bow and 3 arrow bags, or 4 throwing weapons, is such a thing possible ?
ms_ts_2007 said:
You can do that by giving them that yourself.
They are a newborn in a big world. They don't know who/what is going to shape them and thus these nobles have normal swords to accompany them until you decide to change them. So basically, no, until you give them the weapons you want on them.
Bremmelgod
Knight at Arms
Your screenshots are amazing! I would love to know how to use the focus like that.
bishopbutters
Regular
My guess is he is not mounted, in first person, and zoomed in but that does seem even more focused then that :p Excellent screenie
I think he uses direct x 11 , or 10 which ever and photoshops maybe, there's no way it is dx 9 unless he photoshops the crap out of the screenies.
, or 10 which ever and photoshops maybe, there's no way it is dx 9 unless he photoshops the crap out of the screenies.