Wellenbrecher said:There's blessedly few "Islamists countries" like that.
Alrighty, thanks for for confirming.
Wellenbrecher said:There's blessedly few "Islamists countries" like that.
Wellenbrecher said:There's blessedly few "Islamists countries" like that.
Wellenbrecher said:Well, I'll tell you it was quite the struggle to get myself to type GDR instead of DDR when talking about it here
At around 9:30 a.m., the Kouachi brothers fled into the office of Création Tendance Découverte, a signage production company located on an industrial estate in Dammartin-en-Goële. They had a 26-year-old male "hostage," a graphic designer named Lilian Lepere, of whom they were apparently unaware. He hid inside a cardboard box, and sent the police text messages for around three hours during the siege, providing them with "tactical elements such as the brothers' location inside the premises"
Vermillion_Hawk said:Obviously you don't think the potential is absent in the far-right case but when objectively comparing the two instances I'd say there's a lot more potential for harm in one case than in the other, especially given that Europe's been slowly radicalizing over the last couple of years anyways.
krik said:Glad to know you're also "110% sure that these right extremists are more dangerous than the Radical islamists u see today".
masterborn12 said:And yes Europe is Secular but the thing is how long will that last for, if a Right extremist party somehow got in power, you can change that secularism to Fascism
I have to say though, when it comes to effective oppression and genocide, we Europeans pretty much mastered the art ages ago. "I was born in the darkness you merely adapted to it" and so on. I wonder if those terrorists ever even consider what would happen if Europe went full retard, I'm thinking the Middle East would turn into glass in the matter of hours.kurczak said:Vermillion_Hawk said:Obviously you don't think the potential is absent in the far-right case but when objectively comparing the two instances I'd say there's a lot more potential for harm in one case than in the other, especially given that Europe's been slowly radicalizing over the last couple of years anyways.
The difference is, with European far-right we're talking about hypothetical threats. With Islamic extremism we're talking about threat and attacks that are actually happening right now.
Yeah, hence the full retard aspect. I dont think it's a completely impossible scenario, but highly unlikely.Cookie Eating Huskarl said:If you promise them the oil fields and the Suez canal, they'll probably not glass it. But if we assume genocide was acceptable, genocide would probably happen if we go with your idea of poking the sleeping bear.
kurczak said:Vermillion_Hawk said:Obviously you don't think the potential is absent in the far-right case but when objectively comparing the two instances I'd say there's a lot more potential for harm in one case than in the other, especially given that Europe's been slowly radicalizing over the last couple of years anyways.
The difference is, with European far-right we're talking about hypothetical threats. With Islamic extremism we're talking about threat and attacks that are actually happening right now.
Europe has not been radicalizing. The only two political subjects of any relevance that might be described as "radical" are UKIP and FN. And the latter has gotten a great deal more mainstream since Marine took over after her father. Even then, both UKIP and FN advocate some sort of civic nationalism. They love to parade and showcase their non-white party members to demonstrate that. They also don't really have anything in common except for their distaste for federalization of Europe. And again, they differ on what is their preferred alternative.
No serious European political entity advocates the kind of ethnic nationalism that was responsible for the second if not both world wars. Yes, there are lumpenproletariat morons spouting their xenophobic bull**** in the comment sections of their favorite tabloid site, but they hold zero political power.
krik said:Glad to know you're also "110% sure that these right extremists are more dangerous than the Radical islamists u see today".
No, I just fail to see how that's worse than I dunno, 9/11 or the endless ****ing suicide bombings that still occur over there.masterborn12 said:krik said:Glad to know you're also "110% sure that these right extremists are more dangerous than the Radical islamists u see today".
Yea somehow u forgot Breivik who was responsible for 77 kills personally.
Vermillion_Hawk] [quote author=krik said:Glad to know you're also "110% sure that these right extremists are more dangerous than the Radical islamists u see today".
Vermillion_Hawk said:...
As I've said, the far right in Europe's comeback is not something that's even remotely up for debate. It's been documented extensively in political science and is now becoming one of the more relevant topics in that field. If you're interested, here's some more articles on the subject, although admittedly The Economist, while decent, is not an academic source. If you think the radicalization towards the right in Europe doesn't exist then you're either blind or in willing disbelief.