Perisno Q&A + FAQ
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FACTION RELATIONS QUERY.
Hi all,
Player starting relations with minor baddies faction is AFAIU -10.
You can actually improve it. I helped Desouk Slavers when they fought against a nation my nation was at war with and saw that our relation improved by 1 pt/fight.
So will we be buddies when relation is +1 or better? Meaning Desouks will not hunt me but help me on occasion.
Rgds, Oldtimer
Hi all,
Player starting relations with minor baddies faction is AFAIU -10.
You can actually improve it. I helped Desouk Slavers when they fought against a nation my nation was at war with and saw that our relation improved by 1 pt/fight.
So will we be buddies when relation is +1 or better? Meaning Desouks will not hunt me but help me on occasion.
Rgds, Oldtimer
From my knowledge, no. You will not be buddies. I think they will still chase you, but you can't fight them. That's kinda annoying.
That's, at least, what happened to me.
That's, at least, what happened to me.
Lord of Shadows said:
Hi,
well, that`s one more proof that faction relations need a thorough rework to make them plausible.
BTW, Desouks as of now should logically be a Hakkon unit or sub-faction. There is a slave market in Desouk town so slavery is legal in Hakkon. That needs a lot of work to implement, however.
Dear devs, why not use simple logic and rid yourself of the problem by having a simple Slaver faction and maybe a hidden slave market where you could trade your prisoners?
Rgds, Oldtimer
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Oldtimer said:
I'm assure you, that is in the list of Bugs, and many, many.. other problems, the developers are working to solve.
To all:
Please, if you can, draw a list of of bugs you've noted and publish them, either in the bug report topic, or perhaps, in the volunteer topic so I can put it as a "goal" for our testers to look for it and publish their findings, that can save us a lot of time so we can better attend to player reports and feature suggestions, and of course, polish the module even more.
deryoung said:
That usually happens in the native as well, you must wait all the lords to be converted or the script to kick in, it's because they still have armies and can retake cities/castles, or perhaps they're sieging somewhere. So the game, kinda gives them a "chance"..
Lord of Shadows said:
Are you sure you can't fight them? you can just surrender? that's quite a issue..
@Gryffindor
Faction relation problem is not a bug, it´s faulty thinking. Any game development in this category needs to start with:
- defining factions in game,
- defining faction relations and relation development,
- making a map coherent with the above.
Seems you have failed re the above by prioritizing other things. Still, I`ve put several hundreds hrs in Perisno because I see enormous potential and admire your effort.
I have many obligations and can`t read code but I`m willing to help with logics and plausibility seeing as I`ve worked in designing scientific experiments in RL for quite a few yrs, if you`re interested.
Rgds and keep up the good work,
Oldtimer
Faction relation problem is not a bug, it´s faulty thinking. Any game development in this category needs to start with:
- defining factions in game,
- defining faction relations and relation development,
- making a map coherent with the above.
Seems you have failed re the above by prioritizing other things. Still, I`ve put several hundreds hrs in Perisno because I see enormous potential and admire your effort.
I have many obligations and can`t read code but I`m willing to help with logics and plausibility seeing as I`ve worked in designing scientific experiments in RL for quite a few yrs, if you`re interested.
Rgds and keep up the good work,
Oldtimer
When I try to fight them, the only option is "Leave.".Gryffindor said:
Lord of Shadows said:
Hi,
how should that be understood?
1. You attack slavers and can only "leave" or
2. Slavers attack you and there is a fight but also with a "leave" option? Or maybe only a "leave" option?
Because if there is a "leave" option for both 1 and 2 it seems that improved relations have a logical effect. Both of you don`t want to fight each other anymore. But ofc you should have a possibility to fight at the price of worsened relations.
Rgds, Oldtimer
It doesn't matter if you attack them or they attack you. There's only Leave option for both.
Even if you have + relations with them, they will still chase/run from you.
Even if you have + relations with them, they will still chase/run from you.
Improving relations with all minors have one realy positive effect - they do not attack you and your own faction (when you become independent king), but there is one annoying bug with some bandits - after first helping them they attack your party everytime when they see you despite on their number (party of 10 will attack army of 150 for ex.) until you raise relations to +.
T.L.S. said:
Hi,
I don`t know if my observation abt.:
- being able to join any fight on any side WITHOUT worsening relations(while unaligned at least) with the faction I fight against is general.
But general or not it`s not good. Improving relations with minor factions is potentially so useful now that I consider it as a cheat.
There must be realistic consequences of player decisions.
Rgds, Oldtimer
You need to go to Wotin Castle.
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