[ECS2] Qualifiers - Group C
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We accept the time of 18:30 BST on Sunday. Good luck and have funScar said:
BRO vs FraG will start at 19:45BST instead
Wolfpack picks
Friday 20:00BST
Sunday 18:30 BST
Friday 20:00BST
Sunday 18:30 BST
According to the rules Wolfpack should've picked
3 days (they picked only 2)
and given 2 times for each day (they gave only 1 variat per day).
According to our inclan survey
http://doodle.com/y6sr3aey9w3rv69a
the best day and time for us is (unfortunately)
Saturday 20:00BST
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3 days (they picked only 2)
and given 2 times for each day (they gave only 1 variat per day).
Scar said:
According to our inclan survey
http://doodle.com/y6sr3aey9w3rv69a
the best day and time for us is (unfortunately)
Saturday 20:00BST
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In that case, since Druzhina can (judging by the Doodle link) play on sunday at 20:00 BST we`ll be ok with playing then. Alternativly we can play Monday.
Scar said:
The rules define the way it should be done:
step1. Team A picks 3 days and 2 times
step2. Team B choses one of the variants untill 24:00GMT
Also authoritative explanations says, that
which means that there are NO resctrictions for Team B (no date restrictions/timegap restictions and no deadline).
Why do you apply (2) for Team B if team A fails to complete (1)?
Nothing is said about what to do if Team B fails to make their pick in time.
Which means that this:
is not defined by The Tournament Rules, but is written out of your own head.Scar said:
Also
Obviously same goes to DRZ.
Wolfpack failed to complete their step, DRZ failed to complete their step. Equal. Why do you give wolfpack "an upper hand" in this situation?
Wolfpack could have chosen, but DRZ did.
Plz don't think that I'm trying to start a drama here or smth. I think that picking rules should be clarified to avoid misunderstandings.
Also, Greed, please contact red_war directly via Steam or (and) Taleworlds or Skype de_red_war if you want this match to happen.
I feel like I'm DRZ's secretary which is not my role.
Zaharist said:
Wolfpack posted by the stated time (Tuesday, 18.00 GMT ). If Druzhina wanted to make a complaint about Wolfpack's post not complying with teh rules, they needed to have done that by the stated time (Tuesday, 24.00 GMT). Since Druzhina did not post, the opportunity to chose a time reverted to Wolfpack. While teams are welcome to arrange matches outside of this system they have to do so before the deadlines.
While we would prefer teams choose mutually suitable times, we cannot have the scheduling dragging on in this way, if the teams will not compromise the admins will choose a time.
So you made a couple of statements, Zaharist, let's go through them.
The one and only spirit of the rule is it to ensure quick scheduling until tuesday, 24.00 BST. That is very obvious when you read through the rule and everything I've said regarding the new system.
Regarding your other points, what Aeronwen said.
First of 'free' in this sentense means 'allowed' and not 'you can pick a date and time whenever you feel like it, 1 minute before the match if you want'. If you would have read everything we said regarding scheduling, you would have noticed that our primiarily goal is it to force teams to schedule earlier, thuesday in our case, so streamers can plan ahead more easily. Now let's ask ourselves a couple of questions, shall we? Does it say until when team B has time to pick a date and time in case Team A fails to pick enough dates in the same sentence? No. Is it still obvious you are meant to do so until tuesday, 24.00 BST? Yes, of course. Why would I add a deadline for Team B under normal curicumstances, and then not have it anymore when it is in fact easier for them to decide on day and time, as they chose the best time themselves? I'm sure you can see yourself that that would be incredibly stupid - in any case my position is backed up by the following rule.Zaharist said:
§ 1 I Majurity and Respect said:
The one and only spirit of the rule is it to ensure quick scheduling until tuesday, 24.00 BST. That is very obvious when you read through the rule and everything I've said regarding the new system.
I'm not giving anyone an upper hand. I spoke to Purzelblume and told her to find a suitable date for both teams in a chat with Greed and ReD WaR, and even offered one day extension in case they fail to do so. That is more than fair when I could have just chosen a time myself considering both teams failed to schedule correctly as you pointed out.Zaharist said:
Regarding your other points, what Aeronwen said.
