Need Help About Eastern Roman Empire/Byzantine Empire - 600AD

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Hello guys, we want to start a mod in 600AD-650AD

Can anyone help us to find most important 10 city, 25 most important castle (or castle-city together) and some important small cities/villages ? (in Byzantine/E.Roman Empire)

Actually I found so many cities and castles, but we cannot add them all. Personally I couldnt be sure that which ones were more important then others. I will be happy for any help  :smile:

Cheers
 
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Thank you so much dear matmohair1  :smile: So If we say the most 10 important cities of E.Roman Emp. in 600AD are ;

- Rome
- Constantinople
- Carthage
- Alexandria
- Athens
- Antioch
- Alexandria
- Trebizond
- Ankyra Ravenna
- Jerusalem

Can we say that ?

about villages and some catles ;

Dyrrhachium
Adrianople
Varna
Belgrade
Tarsos (Adana)
Attaleia (Antalya)
Ikonion (Konya)
Chalcedon
Nicaea (İznik)
Sinope
Caesarea
Emesa
Damascus
Ravenna Ankyra

(Mostly Anatolia)
Prusa
Adrianople (Edirne)
Pergamum (Bergama)
Sardis (Manisa)
Ephesus (Aydın)
Cotacum (Kütahya)
Gangra (Çankırı)
Dadybra (İskilip)
Tephrice (Divriği)
Heraclea (Ereğli)
Amorium (Afyon)
Laranda (Karaman)
Erzurum (Erzurum)
Manzikert (Malazgirt)
Sebastça (Sivas)
Philomenium (Akşehir)
Castamon (Kastamonu)
Amasca (Amasya)
Mocissus (Kırşehir)


(Mostly Thracian and Greece)
Trianopolis
Larissa
Stobi
Thessaloniki
Serdica
Dyrrhachium
Nicopolis
Tomis
Marcianopolis
Ratiaria
Doclea
Sparta
Tripoli
Chalkis
Pirgos
LAvrion

Crete
Cyprus

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(Mostly Italian)
-Sardi
Olbia
Carales
Sulci

-Corsi
Aleria

-Siculi
Gela
Panormus
Messana
Catana

-Italy
Neapolis
Salapia
Venusia
Tarentum
Callipolis
Hydrus
Croton
Verona
Felsina
Pisae
Sentinum
Asculum
Capua
Paestum
Veii
Genua
Patavium


Pola
Scardona
Salonae
Narona
Comum
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(Charthage and West-Northern Africa)
iol
Saldae
Hippo Regius
Cirta
Zarna
Thapsus
Thaenae
Sabratha
Oea
Laptis Magna
Arae
Ultica
Zama
Al-Kaif

(East Spain)
Gades
Malaca

Tingis
Lixus

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(Soma Islands)
-Mallorca (It will be castle i think)
Ibiza
Menorca

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(10 city, 25 castle, 80 village)

Will it true ?
 
I doubt you can call any of those villages, even in the 7th century. You probably need much more detailed maps if you want to see proper villages. Remember the Mount & Blade world takes just a few days to travel across, that is roughly on the scale of Sicily. Scaling up to cover the entire Roman empire and more will require very much work (as you say, you cannot even include all towns) or changing the gameplay to not include villages, only larger towns/cities.

If you still choose to model those places as villages, you should at least consider upgrading Ravenna to a city. As one of matmohair1's maps shows, it was the administrative capital of the Italian part. By the same argument I guess Thessaloniki should also be a city, though I must admit it does not immediately spring to mind for me in the same way as Ravenna.

If Ravenna and Thessaloniki are considered cities, you will have all the praefectural capitals (those two plus Carthage and Constantinople), and your list already includes all the patriarchal cities (Rome, Constantinople, Antioch, Alexandria, Jerusalem). Make sure you have not missed any of the biggest cities in population and economy, as far as this can be wikipedia-estimated, and I think you will have an alright list of the most important cities. I suspect that Trebizond and Ankyra do not deserve to be in the top 10, but if the goal is to fill a game world with somewhat evenly spread cities, I guess including them makes sense.
 
Varrak said:
about villages and some catles ;

Dyrrhachium
Adrianople
Varna
Belgrade
Tarsos (Adana)
Attaleia (Antalya)
Ikonion (Konya)
Chalcedon
Nicaea (İznik)
Sinope
Caesarea
Emesa
Damascus
Ravenna Ankyra

(Mostly Anatolia)
Prusa
Adrianople (Edirne)
Pergamum (Bergama)
Sardis (Manisa)
Ephesus (Aydın)
Cotacum (Kütahya)
Gangra (Çankırı)
Dadybra (İskilip)
Tephrice (Divriği)
Heraclea (Ereğli)
Amorium (Afyon)
Laranda (Karaman)
Erzurum (Erzurum)
Manzikert (Malazgirt)
Sebastça (Sivas)
Philomenium (Akşehir)
Castamon (Kastamonu)
Amasca (Amasya)
Mocissus (Kırşehir)


(Mostly Thracian and Greece)
Trianopolis
Larissa
Stobi
Thessaloniki
Serdica
Dyrrhachium
Nicopolis
Tomis
Marcianopolis
Ratiaria
Doclea
Sparta
Tripoli
Chalkis
Pirgos
LAvrion

Crete
Cyprus

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1280px-Balkans_6th_century.svg.png

(Mostly Italian)
-Sardi
Olbia
Carales
Sulci

-Corsi
Aleria

-Siculi
Gela
Panormus
Messana
Catana

-Italy
Neapolis
Salapia
Venusia
Tarentum
Callipolis
Hydrus
Croton
Verona
Felsina
Pisae
Sentinum
Asculum
Capua
Paestum
Veii
Genua
Patavium


Pola
Scardona
Salonae
Narona
Comum
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(Charthage and West-Northern Africa)
iol
Saldae
Hippo Regius
Cirta
Zarna
Thapsus
Thaenae
Sabratha
Oea
Laptis Magna
Arae
Ultica
Zama
Al-Kaif

(East Spain)
Gades
Malaca

Tingis
Lixus

carthage2.jpg

(Soma Islands)
-Mallorca (It will be castle i think)
Ibiza
Menorca

Baleares-rotulado.png
(10 city, 25 castle, 80 village)

Will it true ?

Updated ! Is it okay now ? Can anyone check it ?
 
Are you basing the Italian, African and Spanish "villages" on the maps in your own post? Bear in mind that those are 800+ years earlier than 600 A.D. Unfortunately, I do not have any better maps myself. I can check my books in about a week.
 
I couldnt find better maps, but I think that cities/villages maybe didnt change their name according to same culture and empire ruled in same area. Of course it could be wrong. I would be happy for your checking :smile: Thank you for your help
 
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