You've been owned son

[Tomwa]

Is there a way to disable a battle being lost just because I get a spear through the face? I was successfully sieging Sargoth kicking total ass almost full health my troops were hausing them and all of a sudden wham spear to the face and I get a body count. The losses were unfreaking believeable apparently the second i get knocked out my troops assume the fetal position because about 60 nord huscarls were insta killed from my unconciousness. My jaw dropped, I twitched a little, a part of me died, and then i went back to my villages to get more troops. I did take Sargoth eventually but I'll never forget my insta fail. You guys should post your insta fails here too (If you have some) so i don't feel so lonely 

 

[stygN]

What ever you do in mount and blade, never ever do simulated battle between your troops and AI troops... Never.

If you have 50 Huskals and they have 150 recruits, they win...

If you get knocked out in a battle or siege, leave as soon as possible. It's not always you get the option to leave, but most times. Use it.. Just click "Leave"! Go somewhere, wait a bit to heal yourself and your wounded troops, then go back and finish them.

Of course, you have to build the siege equipment all over again.

Just never, never, never "Order your men to join the fight without you" or what ever it say.. Just.. Never.. Hell, it's better to just surrender unless you just know that your numbers will overcome the enemy numbers.. Like... You still have 100 guys standing, the enemy has 10.. Of course, send your guys in to finish the deal.. But if its even numbers or worse, just give it up.. Your guys fight like crap without you leading them...

It's just the way the AI battle works in this game.. It's pretty much about numbers..

I heard that someone had made an AI battle mod that looked at your soldiers, their level and equipment, then looked at the enemy with their level and equipment. With this you could beat 200 low tier dudes with your 50 Huskarls in auto battle.. But now, all that matter is numbers.

So yeah.. Do the honorable deed.. Surrender. Save your men. You'll be freed pretty soon you know.

I hope this sort of answered your question : )

 

[Puerkl8r]

apparently in original M&B the battle would continue even after you got knocked out, not sure if it was just how it worked or a mod. I really want that for warband.

 

[Boduar]

I remember losing 150 heavy cav and 50 sharpshooters because one of my men thought it would be funny to bump me off the wall ... ha ha very funny guys.

 

[Finch]

You were hit in the face, generally that is fatal unless you have a good helmet on. I like to try to aim for the head when I attack with my blade. One slash across the forehead and the insides spill out equals one dead enemy. And it is also reasonably realistic to say your men will perform badly without you their general in the field with them. A general need to rally his troops, keep up the morale, etc. If your troops fight without you, they are not as inspired to give their best.

 

[sgtsniper]

control alt delete

 

[Tomwa]

What ever you do in mount and blade, never ever do simulated battle between your troops and AI troops... Never.

If you have 50 Huskals and they have 150 recruits, they win...

If you get knocked out in a battle or siege, leave as soon as possible. It's not always you get the option to leave, but most times. Use it.. Just click "Leave"! Go somewhere, wait a bit to heal yourself and your wounded troops, then go back and finish them.

I left when I get knocked out but that message pops up saying so and so wounded so and so killed and then it takes me back to the siege screen. I had lost such a horrible number of troops i had to leave lol and I didn't have only huscarls they were just most of what I had lol.

 

[Boduar]

2 things about logic behind "Obviously since you the leader got knocked out they wont fight as well".  First if your a good leader and your men see you die fighting the enemy your sure as hell going to get revenge for him.  When I see one of my knights get knocked out by an enemy cav/lord I bullseye the son of a B and sticky back him till he dies for revenge.  Second they dont have the option of running away its fight and win or lose and die.  Under those conditions you have good incentive to fight as hard as you possibly can since there is no option to run away anymore.

 

[Tomwa]

The thing is it's a siege if my commander dies in a siege and I'm no longer up to fighting then I'm running like hell just my opinion on the matter lol.

 

[stygN]

see

Exactly what the AI lacks.. They cant see... They don't feel.. They don't fight better if you yourself are a better person.

As for the OP, yes. In Siege Defenses it's pretty hard to leave... I think I've seen it a few times.. But perhaps that was when I barely survived with a couple of my guys, the enemy pulls back for a few hours while they prepare the next wave. Perhaps it was only then I could choose to leave.

And, if YOU are attacked in land battles, it's not always easy to leave... But, a "Retreat" might be in order..

If you know a land battle are going "south", just get knocked out and let your few survivors carry you out of the battle.

 

[Tomwa]

The other issue is i took sargoth garrisoned all the troops i had (About 94 worth of troops and im recruiting more) but I cannot make peace with King Ragnar he keeps saying "it's not beneficial for me to make peace" or some such nonsense and I'm like dude I just took Sargoth from it's 340 or so garrison what the heck is gonna make it beneficial to him?

 

[stygN]

King Ragnar sort of used to live in Sargoth... Through out the years he has spilled liters of blood on those walls...

King Ragnar wants to own Sargoth..

You taking Sargoth is not a good idea if you want to discuss diplomacy with King Ragnar...

 

[Boduar]

I find if you just keep beating the crap out of them they will give in eventually.  Khergits gave me peace after I took every single place they owned ... now they just have a bunch of lords running around doing nothing.  Usually they wont give up untill their armies are depleted or they manage to recapture something.

 

[stygN]

@Boduar

All you have to do now is to crush every single Khergit lord still fighting on the map. After that, you've cured the plague! The Khergits are gone!

Or so you think...... Of course they all join other factions and still field those target-practice-dudes.

I really want a mod that's exactly like M & B, but without those damn Khergits...

 

[Tomwa]

^I likes the khergits 

 

[stygN]

Don't get me wrong, I really like the Khergits! They're unique!

I just hate fighting against them, and I don't feel like fighting for them. So, I just want them to disappear : P

 

[Tomwa]

You don't fight the khergits you just don't

 

[Boduar]

Fights against the khergits take at least 2-3x the amount of time ... and most of it is chasing.

Edit: Does not help their lords are super fast since all their men are mounted for speed bonus.

 

[charger]

back to the original question..if you start the game with edit mode enabled and hit control and E quickly when you get knocked out the fight will continue without you...I'm hoping someone will mod this into the standard game soon like they did with mount and blade

 

[Tomwa]

I'm sure the mods that M&B had will be even better on warband (If they're ported)