Youtube Ad Madness

[Shatari]

Is this problem with the user videos or youtube? I do not have any idea about what you are talking about.

It's a problem with the pop ups they've added to youtube videos. Basically, it adds a little arrow thingy at the bottom of the screen when you close an ad, just in case you want to reopen it for some reason. That wouldn't be a problem if it went away when the playbar disappeared, but they leave it up for some reason. It's not too annoying normally, but if there's subtitles then it's usually perfectly placed to interfere with them.

 

[Swadius 2.0]

adblock will hurt their revenue.

I hope they choke on it.

Tad over the top, eh?

It was meant as such. I thought about adding some kind of a emote there, but I didn't.

If you can't make money by forcing people to watch ads, you have to find a way around it.
If you can't. That's too bad, you have to find another way to make a living.

What is so bad about ads?

 

[Kentucky 『 ＨＥＩＧＵＩ 』 James]

When it's one advert per song as in the OP, it gets a bit silly. Especially for a huge subsidiary like youtube that isn't exactly running on a loss. Can't say I've ever experienced adverts of that density, though. Most likely it's the record companies asking youtube for a cut on uploaded albums. 

 

[kurczak]

As far as I know, if the content provider has syndication with youtube or a subsidiary company that makes money off of youtube content, adblock will hurt their revenue.

It's almost as if the average Joe didn't really care about the trials and tribulations of being part of the music industry. What a dickhead. Or as if the current concept of copyright wasn't a total racket.

There's plenty of examples that art that is an actual demand will be willingly paid for by the general public. iTunes, Netflix or Louis C.K.'s (since I am a huge fan of his and he was recently mentioned in the feminism thread). But "oh noes, we can't make really make money off the statutory illusion of owning information" anymore? Cry me a f'kin river.

 

[Swadius 2.0]

As far as I know, if the content provider has syndication with youtube or a subsidiary company that makes money off of youtube content, adblock will hurt their revenue.

It's almost as if the average Joe didn't really care about the trials and tribulations of being part of the music industry. What a dickhead. Or as if the current concept of copyright wasn't a total racket. There's plenty of examples that art that is an actual demand will be willingly paid for by the general public. iTunes, Netflix or Louis C.K.'s (since I am a huge fan of his and he was recently mentioned in the feminism thread). But "oh noes, we can't make really make money off the statutory illusion of owning information" anymore? Cry me a f'kin river.

While I think copyright can go overboard sometimes, that because it does this is no means to make a blanket ban on it. Making money and being able to support oneself is for a lot of people one of the reasons why they create content, and create it at the high volume that they do. Yes, some music video albums do have ads in them, but I think I should point out that other than spending time to get through the ads, they're free. Their content obviously has value to people (why else are they watching or hearing it?) and for a little inconvenience, you don't have to pay money for something that would otherwise have.
This includes people who aren't involved in the music industry as well. For example, people who gather footage, edit it, and apply post production effects and have a partnership with youtube will not get ad revenue if adblock is turned on.

adblock will hurt their revenue.

I hope they choke on it.

Tad over the top, eh?

It was meant as such. I thought about adding some kind of a emote there, but I didn't.

If you can't make money by forcing people to watch ads, you have to find a way around it.
If you can't. That's too bad, you have to find another way to make a living.

Recently, the public bus service has made a change. You can still ride without giving money, but when you get on you have to do a one question anonymous survey question for the department of commerce or some private companies. Someone who only takes the bus to go to the movies is waiting at the bus and starts complaining to you about the almost free bus service saying that the bus service shouldn't do these surveys because they are an inconvenience. And if they can't find a way to make money other than doing surveys, then its too bad and they should do it for free again.

Tell me how you are different from this person who is saying that a company is not morally allowed to cause inconvenience to the people who use its free product in an attempt to become profitable. Go!

 

[Fehnor]

I pay for netflix and amazon prime for ad-free service. I would pay the same for youtube. Until then, adblock+. Youtube content creators make a choice to earn money from advertisements, and I have no sympathy.

 

[Troll]

Youtube content creators make a choice to earn money from advertisements, and I have no sympathy.

I'm confused as to why you make that sound like it's a bloody crime.

It's absolutely baffling to me to see people *****ing about youtube ads. Of course, an ad every five minutes is just annoying bull****. But in my experience (which is limited to somewhat specific types of content, admittedly) that's really rare and in general you can expect to have to watch just five seconds of an ad even for a fairly lengthy video. Basically, it's the most minimal inconvenience I could imagine.

 

[Untitled.]

That's incredibly shortsighted.

THey make that choice in order to produce quality content in the first place. Without the ads, you wouldn't have anything to watch.

I doubt your regular youtuber makes enough money off of it to keep doing it as anything else than a hobby. My best friend is a partner. Every month he buys some candy for YouTube money. He'd put the videos up anyway and the money he makes does not contribute to further content. Anecdotal, yes, but there it is.

 

[Jhessail]

That's incredibly shortsighted.

THey make that choice in order to produce quality content in the first place. Without the ads, you wouldn't have anything to watch.

When the TV cuts to adverts, I go for a smoke, or make a snack in the kitchen, or check what the other channels are showing. Somehow, broadcasting companies have not gone the way of the dodo.

Possibly it might be because:

I doubt your regular youtuber makes enough money off of it to keep doing it as anything else than a hobby. My best friend is a partner. Every month he buys some candy for YouTube money. He'd put the videos up anyway and the money he makes does not contribute to further content. Anecdotal, yes, but there it is.

this.

Somehow, Paradox gamers keep churning out these fantastic After-Action Reports by their hundreds on their forums, and the Let's Play Archive keeps growing as well, yet they get no money out of it! People keep making mods for games without getting paid. What's going on Amontadillo? How come new content is appearing without a price tag attached?

 

[Jace]

Not to mention, just encourages them to go for quantity over quality.

'snot like they give you better adverts which make a bit more money if you put some (extra) effort into creating them videos.

 

[Rujasu]

This feels relevant.

 

[Jhessail]

Not really. The author already admits that he's making enough money from Youtube as it is, but that he doesn't have money to go to trade shows to film them. Big boo hoo.

 

[Rujasu]

He also doesn't seem to be making videos on Youtube anymore.

 

[Jhessail]

Jhess, I didn't mean to imply it was that way for all content creators. My bad.

Yeah, I was just being a sarcastic ******* there, arguing over fence posts instead of focusing on the actual fence.

It's a thorny issue. I personally hate ads with a passion, but it is difficult to see any alternative methods for monetization, as things currently are, though donations seem to work for some.

Then again, the problem is that this seems to be more of an attempt to turn a nice hobby into a full-time job, which I'm not sure gives them any right to complain.

 

[Rujasu]

Then again, the problem is that this seems to be more of an attempt to turn a nice hobby into a full-time job, which I'm not sure gives them any right to complain.

Couldn't the same be said from all art in general?

 

[Jhessail]

It could, and has been. I cannot claim originality on that statement. 

 

[rebelknight]

Youtube ads is fine but ads every 5 minutes is not.

I don't get adblock because some of these bloke deserve the money they get from me viewing said ads.

But too much ads is too much.

 

[Untitled.]

Rebel, you can disable adblock momentarily by the push of a button. Well, it might actually take closer to three clicks, but it's fairly easy.