X-COM: Enemy Unknown remake
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Having no way to lock it into a specific z-level or select a higher tile if there's one lower behind it is a 'minor inconvenience', as are enemies with stats so high they invalidate the entire point of cover or the RNG, having a camera view that insists on rendering the roof if you're on the second to top floor, enemies with teleporting spawns and CTDing when doing the last bit.Arcadius112 said:
Sure, I'll buy it and the bridge you're selling.
It's pretty much plug and play in my experience.Austupaio said:
AK, you should've mentioned randomly getting stuck on the Alien turn. Especially lovely on Ironman, as once you'll reload the game you will get stuck at the exact same point again.
Or Aliens randomly popping into existence on top of your squad because the spawning thingy **** itself.
Those two can be gamebreaking.
Or Aliens randomly popping into existence on top of your squad because the spawning thingy **** itself.
Those two can be gamebreaking.
No, what you mean is during escort missions or bomb diffuse missions.
But it can happen that they just blink into existence at point blank range next to your soldiers during normal gameplay, at places that were perfectly in your LOS and free seconds before.
They then do their little annoying "Here I am!" dance and then the game continues as normal. Which doesn't help much when it's a disc and you're already fighting heavy hitters elsewhere.
If you happen to play on Ironman this can kill your whole team with nothing you can do about it, there is no way to avoid it, no way player skill can get you out of it.
As far as I can tell it usually can happen when you reload for whatever reason - game crashed, you quit for the night, stuck on alien turn, save scumming, w/e - as Aliens will never spawn at exactly the same spot but get moved around slightly. But much like the getting stuck on the alien turn thing, it seemed to happen more and more often without reloading the older my save got.
There is a related issue where after reloading aliens will spawn at the other side of the map yet your soldier will still detect them as if they were in the same spot as they had been previously. I had that happen once where I got stuck on the alien turn and after reloading the three heavy floaters got discovered at the other end of the Abductor class ship instead of around the corner. Harmless, but bloody annoying.
During my ~40 hours of play, I had the teleport thingy happen roughly ten times. Since I only ever played on self-imposed Ironman, it never killed my game for me thankfully.
But it can happen that they just blink into existence at point blank range next to your soldiers during normal gameplay, at places that were perfectly in your LOS and free seconds before.
They then do their little annoying "Here I am!" dance and then the game continues as normal. Which doesn't help much when it's a disc and you're already fighting heavy hitters elsewhere.
If you happen to play on Ironman this can kill your whole team with nothing you can do about it, there is no way to avoid it, no way player skill can get you out of it.
As far as I can tell it usually can happen when you reload for whatever reason - game crashed, you quit for the night, stuck on alien turn, save scumming, w/e - as Aliens will never spawn at exactly the same spot but get moved around slightly. But much like the getting stuck on the alien turn thing, it seemed to happen more and more often without reloading the older my save got.
There is a related issue where after reloading aliens will spawn at the other side of the map yet your soldier will still detect them as if they were in the same spot as they had been previously. I had that happen once where I got stuck on the alien turn and after reloading the three heavy floaters got discovered at the other end of the Abductor class ship instead of around the corner. Harmless, but bloody annoying.
During my ~40 hours of play, I had the teleport thingy happen roughly ten times. Since I only ever played on self-imposed Ironman, it never killed my game for me thankfully.
I didnt crash even once so far, currently on the Temple ship, and the only glitch Ive met was when my Colonel sniper got himself in a critical situation or whatever you call it, but then, his ragdoll flipped the **** off and he just flatlined.
Was pretty annoying, especially because I had two supports right next to him.
Was pretty annoying, especially because I had two supports right next to him.
A bit late to the whole "omg dis gam is kinda kewl but kinda laem gay wtf firaxis" thing I've noticed, but... I figured I would describe my worst, best, and last playthrough of the game. They were all the same as it was my only playthrough.
At first, I enjoyed the game immensely on classic ironman, managing to keep one of my original squad alive and having 72 kills and serving on 54 missions and only missed 4 times. He was a french sniper with the nickname "Cyclops" and he was a badass who killed the last 3 mutons on a map after all of his squadmates were killed.
He lead a squad that wasalso made of some hardcore dudes who I managed to keep alive (mostly by switching them out for rookies occasionally and being very, very careful with them). Eventually I had a squad of six Colonels, with Cyclops as the leader.
One by one, the hardcore soldiers began dropping like flies. Cyclops always remained alive by some miracle, and pure luck. But my two colonel medics were killed, my useless heavies, all my assaults I used to stun aliens... It was sad, really, but it made going to the memorial in the barracks all the more cool. (That's my favorite part about the new X-COM by the way.)
I dealt with some bugs. I mostly ignored them because Xcom was becoming an epic story for me, and I wanted to see how long Cyclops would stay alive, dangerous mission after dangerous mission. We shot down a UFO and I was greeted with the horrible camera that continuously kept going a level above the one I was at, meanwhile obstructing my view with the ceiling of the UFO. This was fine. I raged at it, I yelled at the computer once in a while (it was late) but it didn't matter because the game held my attention.
Then, I captured the outsider shard and was preparing for the assault on the alien base. I was getting bad vibes that this base was the last part of the game. After just 2 days of playing? Of course, later I found that I was false but there doesn't seem to be much more beyond the alien base assault.
Finally, there was one bug I would not tolerate. My ironman saves being corrupted, a common bug that lots of people seem to have complained about. Thus, my best and only game with the new XCOM was gone. This was quite frustrating, as I was really enjoying that campaign. As short, dumbed-down and luck-based as I knew it all was, as much as every time I started a mission I moaned about the movement system and that all I really had to do was scout ahead with supports and assaults and have 3 snipers in the back picking off everything they see with Double Tap and Headshot. The lack of options... really the only hard decision in the game being which country to put a satellite over if they're equal panic and equal funding... I mean, honestly, the only appeal of the game was Cyclips and the story that was forming from my squad members. But I can (and have, as watchers of my old streams would know) do that in the original just as well, and in a better game.
I haven't been able to play the game again, because without my uber squad of badasses I had put so much effort into training, the game showed its true face. I realized after a few missions that the cover system is really bull****, and that the only thing that matters is the cover in front of the soldier, not the fifty cars in front of him or the wall or whatever.
I didn't mind the bullets going through ****. The smoke effect and all gave me the idea that the rounds they were shooting were somewhat high caliber for a rifle (which makes sense, because aliums) made it make sense for bullets to penetrate a thin wall (most walls in the game were quite thin that I've seen). They should at least make holes in it though and do some damage to the wall rather than clipping straight through it as if it weren't there.
Overall I really enjoyed the game and it gave me a weekend of entertainment, but never again, except maybe for multiplayer.
He lead a squad that wasalso made of some hardcore dudes who I managed to keep alive (mostly by switching them out for rookies occasionally and being very, very careful with them). Eventually I had a squad of six Colonels, with Cyclops as the leader.
One by one, the hardcore soldiers began dropping like flies. Cyclops always remained alive by some miracle, and pure luck. But my two colonel medics were killed, my useless heavies, all my assaults I used to stun aliens... It was sad, really, but it made going to the memorial in the barracks all the more cool. (That's my favorite part about the new X-COM by the way.)
I dealt with some bugs. I mostly ignored them because Xcom was becoming an epic story for me, and I wanted to see how long Cyclops would stay alive, dangerous mission after dangerous mission. We shot down a UFO and I was greeted with the horrible camera that continuously kept going a level above the one I was at, meanwhile obstructing my view with the ceiling of the UFO. This was fine. I raged at it, I yelled at the computer once in a while (it was late) but it didn't matter because the game held my attention.
Then, I captured the outsider shard and was preparing for the assault on the alien base. I was getting bad vibes that this base was the last part of the game. After just 2 days of playing? Of course, later I found that I was false but there doesn't seem to be much more beyond the alien base assault.
Finally, there was one bug I would not tolerate. My ironman saves being corrupted, a common bug that lots of people seem to have complained about. Thus, my best and only game with the new XCOM was gone. This was quite frustrating, as I was really enjoying that campaign. As short, dumbed-down and luck-based as I knew it all was, as much as every time I started a mission I moaned about the movement system and that all I really had to do was scout ahead with supports and assaults and have 3 snipers in the back picking off everything they see with Double Tap and Headshot. The lack of options... really the only hard decision in the game being which country to put a satellite over if they're equal panic and equal funding... I mean, honestly, the only appeal of the game was Cyclips and the story that was forming from my squad members. But I can (and have, as watchers of my old streams would know) do that in the original just as well, and in a better game.
I haven't been able to play the game again, because without my uber squad of badasses I had put so much effort into training, the game showed its true face. I realized after a few missions that the cover system is really bull****, and that the only thing that matters is the cover in front of the soldier, not the fifty cars in front of him or the wall or whatever.
I didn't mind the bullets going through ****. The smoke effect and all gave me the idea that the rounds they were shooting were somewhat high caliber for a rifle (which makes sense, because aliums) made it make sense for bullets to penetrate a thin wall (most walls in the game were quite thin that I've seen). They should at least make holes in it though and do some damage to the wall rather than clipping straight through it as if it weren't there.
Overall I really enjoyed the game and it gave me a weekend of entertainment, but never again, except maybe for multiplayer.
dustbiter
Master Knight
What amazes me is the number of people going "greatest game ever" and "OMG haters take off your nostalgia googles" on the steam forums. Either folks are happy with shallow material, or they don't want to acknowledge that the game is mediocre and lacking replay value. Oh yeah I only played through the game once too, trying to start a new game made me feel ill.
While it certainly isn't the greatest game ever, and it does have evident flaws in parts, proceeding to state that it is mediocre with little replay value would be committing the same offense as your opponents there.
dustbiter said:
So straw man fallacy?
You should be putting forward more evidence of a popular disagreement than "many people".
