Comrade Temuzu 说:The stealing and robbing part?Untitled. 说:
I really like how stereotyping black, Asian or anyone else is considered bad but stereotyping Gypsies is fine.
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I really like how stereotyping black, Asian or anyone else is considered bad but stereotyping Gypsies is fine.
I'm pretty sure Kurczak has recovered. At least she seems totally fine to me. 
RabbleKnight 说:Comrade Temuzu 说:The stealing and robbing part?Untitled. 说:
I really like how stereotyping black, Asian or anyone else is considered bad but stereotyping Gypsies is fine.
"The French make great cheese" is hardly considered bad.
Regardless, if objectively observing the norms and behaviour of a culture is considered bad, then this world can go to hell.
I hate how when my grandfather got robbed by a black man people called him an old racist when he described the person. That's just plain stupid. He's simply stating a fact. This person is black, has black hair and dark eyes. It's not like he said "all black people are thieves and murderers" despite, statistically, a larger percent of immigrants that have arrived from anywhere outside the western world tend to resort to crime than previous inhabitants
This is not strawmanning, I'm not claiming that black or dark people would be predisposed to be criminals, I'm just observing a correlation.
But really, Roma culture pretty much is that way. Did you read Orchid's post about the time he lived with them?
Regardless, if objectively observing the norms and behaviour of a culture is considered bad, then this world can go to hell.
I hate how when my grandfather got robbed by a black man people called him an old racist when he described the person. That's just plain stupid. He's simply stating a fact. This person is black, has black hair and dark eyes. It's not like he said "all black people are thieves and murderers" despite, statistically, a larger percent of immigrants that have arrived from anywhere outside the western world tend to resort to crime than previous inhabitants
This is not strawmanning, I'm not claiming that black or dark people would be predisposed to be criminals, I'm just observing a correlation.
But really, Roma culture pretty much is that way. Did you read Orchid's post about the time he lived with them?
Cernunos 说:
Thanks
, but it's been a lot of years, so you know...water under the bridge.Looking back, it was a pretty interesting experience. In a way. In other ways it was just horrible
While it wasn't a near death experience in terms of what happened, it kinda was in terms of what I thought would happen. I was positive I was gonna croak. And I was thinking "wow I imagined it more...cinematic - the fear, the struggle, the acceptance, the deep last words or at least my life rolling before my eyes. But nope, none of it. I was just there, acutely, intensely aware of everything - every small move, sound, smell. And when they were gone, I was completely calm and organized, washed the spray out of my eyes, got dressed, went to the shop across the street, called the cops from their phone, went back home, made some coffee, lit a cigarette, waited for the cops like nothing happened. It was only after several days that it suddenly kicked in and many a restless night full of night terrors and staring at the front door with a gun in my hands was had.
Untitled. 说:I'm pretty sure Kurczak has recovered. At least she seems totally fine to me.
RabbleKnight 说:Comrade Temuzu 说:The stealing and robbing part?Untitled. 说:
I really like how stereotyping black, Asian or anyone else is considered bad but stereotyping Gypsies is fine."The French make great cheese" is hardly considered bad.
Regardless, if objectively observing the norms and behaviour of a culture is considered bad, then this world can go to hell.
I hate how when my grandfather got robbed by a black man people called him an old racist when he described the person. That's just plain stupid. He's simply stating a fact. This person is black, has black hair and dark eyes. It's not like he said "all black people are thieves and murderers" despite, statistically, a larger percent of immigrants that have arrived from anywhere outside the western world tend to resort to crime than previous inhabitants
This is not strawmanning, I'm not claiming that black or dark people would be predisposed to be criminals, I'm just observing a correlation.
But really, Roma culture pretty much is that way. Did you read Orchid's post about the time he lived with them?
I am not going to bother to go find the actual numbers, because I've looked at them many times before. But to get it in the right ballpark . . . African American men between the ages of 18 to 45 account for four times as much violent crime in the U.S. as do age-matched (though not sure about poverty/education/class based) Caucasian American men. That disparity is probably at least as large or larger when comparing African American men to any other ethnic or racial group of men in the U.S.
That means absolutely nothing about how the supposed 'signs' of the spurious categorical system called "race" relate to things like innate aggressiveness, inherent propensity toward violence, or any other "racialist" model.
This is a cultural issue; the disparities observed are almost certainly derived almost entirely from cultural forces and secondarily from economic or class/status factors. The problem is that, in the world today, so pervaded with overzealous political correctness and irrational thinking guised as "sensitivity" that even saying there is any difference at all is liable to be labeled as being racist.
There are cultural forces, of myriad nature, that make young African men vulnerable to going down the path of criminal thug. Those sorts of cultural forces are not as predominant in other American sub-cultures. That IMHO, is the honest to goodness truth and to be afraid of the truth is not helpful. If we want to solve such social problems, we need to be open-minded and honest about what the upstream determinants might be.
So, with that said, I can entertain the prospect that something about Roma culture--being as they are, the analogously disenfranchised, minority diaspora of much of central, southern and eastern Europe--predisposes criminality. It certainly is not an unfamiliar stereotype though I do not have the sort of knowledge to know if there is any truth to the stereotype.
We really must not be afraid to speak about these things and to speak about them openly. Something about the context of Italian culture in the 1920s made fascism very appealing; you could say it predisposed a 'vulnerability' to the allures of totalitarianism. The same happened with Germany culture at about the same time and thereafter. Going back farther, something about French culture made it vulnerable to Napoleonic megalomania in his day, etc., etc.
That means absolutely nothing about how the supposed 'signs' of the spurious categorical system called "race" relate to things like innate aggressiveness, inherent propensity toward violence, or any other "racialist" model.
This is a cultural issue; the disparities observed are almost certainly derived almost entirely from cultural forces and secondarily from economic or class/status factors. The problem is that, in the world today, so pervaded with overzealous political correctness and irrational thinking guised as "sensitivity" that even saying there is any difference at all is liable to be labeled as being racist.
There are cultural forces, of myriad nature, that make young African men vulnerable to going down the path of criminal thug. Those sorts of cultural forces are not as predominant in other American sub-cultures. That IMHO, is the honest to goodness truth and to be afraid of the truth is not helpful. If we want to solve such social problems, we need to be open-minded and honest about what the upstream determinants might be.
So, with that said, I can entertain the prospect that something about Roma culture--being as they are, the analogously disenfranchised, minority diaspora of much of central, southern and eastern Europe--predisposes criminality. It certainly is not an unfamiliar stereotype though I do not have the sort of knowledge to know if there is any truth to the stereotype.
We really must not be afraid to speak about these things and to speak about them openly. Something about the context of Italian culture in the 1920s made fascism very appealing; you could say it predisposed a 'vulnerability' to the allures of totalitarianism. The same happened with Germany culture at about the same time and thereafter. Going back farther, something about French culture made it vulnerable to Napoleonic megalomania in his day, etc., etc.
Apparently some folks spent three years studying male and female behaviours. The conclusion: Average Men are more narcissistic and self entitled/privileged than average women.
...Duh.
Oh, look, a link.
...Duh.
Oh, look, a link.
Tumblr is gonna have a field day with this.
A few days ago, I saw an editiorial in my local news about how we should 'remove all military from the Middle East, and seek a diplomatic solution.'
The only diplomatic solution I will give them is a rope around the neck and a 4-foot drop.
The only diplomatic solution I will give them is a rope around the neck and a 4-foot drop.
Austupaio
Duke
Seriously, it's disgusting how many people are outraged by a religious faction, surprise surprise, destroying icons and idols.
Burning people alive barely gets any attention, but muh old ****! Seriously, this is like the only justifiable thing they're doing if you respect someone's ability to be devout.
Idolatry is a sin in most religions, you may recall.
Burning people alive barely gets any attention, but muh old ****! Seriously, this is like the only justifiable thing they're doing if you respect someone's ability to be devout.
Idolatry is a sin in most religions, you may recall.
He mentioned ISIS, so I just mentioned how much I hate them. Regardless if they destroyed ancient ruins, I still hate them for the killings.
Austupaio 说:
Idolatry is a sin if there was anyone actually worshiping said idols. Fun fact: no one is anymore. What they are now are fantastic examples of art from a long gone civilization, who can neither worship the figures nor remake them. Not that I can imagine them worshiping simple guardian figures or frescoes in defensive and palatial structures. And **** off, how in the hell do you think that no one was paying attention when that Jordanian pilot was burned alive? It aroused an immediate, overwhelming response from his home country, across the Mid-East, and across the world.
Populations can recover, infrastructure rebuilt, attitudes changed, but what we leave behind does have value and is irreplaceable, and again, **** off with that attitude. The dozens, hundreds of generations past, despite ascribing to Islam or half a dozen different faiths before it, left such things well alone despite the condemnation of idolatry. The way you phrase it implies all Muslims, or hell, all monotheists are behind such actions of wanton destruction of historical sites and artifacts, which is ****ing retarded. This falls apart with even the most cursory examination of the artifacts and sites themselves, as many are non-religious in nature in the first place.
Austupaio
Duke
How can I tell? Gee, how about the flood of statements like 'Now they've gone too far!' or 'I didn't care before but this really pisses me off', and yes, they are doing this because they adhere to Islam. Why else would they be doing it? It's not like they're communist.
So you **** off with your aggrandizing attitude of both religion and statues.
So you **** off with your aggrandizing attitude of both religion and statues.
Austupaio 说:
And if you are curious, I will tell you. The charges of idolatry are a front, and this should have been obvious to anyone who read any article about this. They go into these major sites, claiming to destroy them for their idolatry, they strip them of artifacts, and topple over and destroy what cannot be moved or sold. They then sell these on the black market to help fund their operations. This kind of action had been seen in Syria years before, but they have now moved to Iraq and implemented it on a larger and more destructive scale than ever before, amounting to total demolition of the sites.
And that's the skinny of it. Not for the prophet but for profit, one might say, so that they can continue their campaign that has murdered thousands in as many different and terrible ways. This issue has relevance to the living of today and the memory of the dead of the past.
Austupaio
Duke
Please tell me you've got something better than Yahoo and Huffington Post, or link me to their own sources because I'm not opening either of those.
Yahoo is... Yahoo and Huffington Post is something I have no interest in giving traffic, plus I keep seeing news articles about the site spreading viruses.
Yahoo is... Yahoo and Huffington Post is something I have no interest in giving traffic, plus I keep seeing news articles about the site spreading viruses.
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