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Sir Dragos

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I don't knew if this questions where asked before but WHY some bush stop you and others don't? From what are they done, reinforced steel or something? I've never seen any of that kind and any bush i tried to get my horse in (in real life) didn't stop me. I understand that a tree stop you ( i didn't tried that :lol: ) but a bush ? :shock:
And since when a pedestian can make a horse in full charge to fully stop and rise ? If that will have happened in real life then the cavalry willl have not won so many (very , very many ) battle and even wars. And we would not have this game (a very good game btw) because nobody likes to play in the losing side
 
Thats the problem with horses, they have minds of their own and often won't willingly run into someone waving a sharp bit of metal around.
As for the bushes, perhaps they're just hungry :smile:
 
I've noticed that the bigger bushes have the same steel trunk of the trees, who never show a scratch even when you smash your great axe into it at *insert exaggeratedly high speed here* on horseback. :lol:
 
We should be able to cut down trees and be a lumberjack. LOL.

Destructible environment would indeed be nice.
 
<cue Monty Python's lumberjack song>

Anyway, as for running into people and having your horse rear, you just need to get a charger or warhorse. Next thing you know you'll be mowing through mobs of infantry, barely slowing, and doing decent charging damage while you're at it.
As for the steel bushes, yeah, those are a little odd I admit. :smile:
 
Sir Dragos said:
I don't knew if this questions where asked before but WHY some bush stop you and others don't? From what are they done, reinforced steel or something?
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It's a species of vegetation called a George Bush and they will stop anything :wink:
 
Janus said:
you just need to get a charger or warhorse
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I was ridding a spirited charger, so... Yes, a horse will not charge into a wall of spikes but they will charge anything in their way . Friend or foe.
 
Does it also have to do with your speed when you run into the bush?

I've noticed that sometimes when I'm charging enemies I can run right over them (and get horse charge damage) other times, my horse rears up (I still get the charge damage). So maybe the bush thing is the same way?
 
Actually, in the 14th/15th century; the Cavelry didn't win hardly ANY battles on horseback.
Traditionaly, Calvery dismounted for battle.
During the ""uprisings" in South Africa in the 1800s; when surrounded by Mounted British troops, the crowds of "rioting" people would lie on the ground, as it is very difficult, if not impossible, to get a horse to step on a human.
Also, sometimes, the silliest things will spook a horse. Remember, they are "prey animals" in the wild, so things as simple as a banner on a spear, can cause a horse to balk. So, it isn't the size, or the "solidity" of a bush that determines the horses reaction.
IMO, M&B has this about right, the horse rears, or stops when you least expect it to.
All part of mounted combat
Baron Rothschild
 
Baron Rothschild said:
Actually, in the 14th/15th century; the Cavelry didn't win hardly ANY battles on horseback.
Traditionaly, Calvery dismounted for battle.
During the ""uprisings" in South Africa in the 1800s; when surrounded by Mounted British troops, the crowds of "rioting" people would lie on the ground, as it is very difficult, if not impossible, to get a horse to step on a human.
Also, sometimes, the silliest things will spook a horse. Remember, they are "prey animals" in the wild, so things as simple as a banner on a spear, can cause a horse to balk. So, it isn't the size, or the "solidity" of a bush that determines the horses reaction.
IMO, M&B has this about right, the horse rears, or stops when you least expect it to.
All part of mounted combat
Baron Rothschild
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...what?

Do you know anything about medieval warfare?
 
Well actually, in the early medieval in Sweden, Norway and Finland the soldiers actually DID use horses for transportation only. AFAIK most people around there fought only on feet as late as the 13th century.

But in other parts of Europe, cavalry whooped the infantry's asses. Not as badly as they do in M&B tho, an ol' good spearwall could easily stop a cavalry charge.

Well, at least we have black khergits that whoop the ass of almost everyone... not as badly as in the real world did: Crusader heavy cavalry had a bad time when the arab cavalry archers showed up, they just came, started shooting and if the europeans tried to get closer, they simply took more distance.

Well, imagine this huge field with 30 swadian knights on warhorses and 15 skilled khergit archers on coursers. Not quite a good example, cause simulating light cavalry vs. heavy cavalry ain't very good in the game currently. In M&B, the swadians would most likely just chase the khergits to a corner of the map and kill 'em. But as some of you might know, real battlefields don't often have borders.
 
As for horses stopping or getting spooked when they see something dangerous...ever wondered why some horses have covers over their eyes? Yeah :smile:
 
Baron Rothschild said:
Actually, in the 14th/15th century; the Cavelry didn't win hardly ANY battles on horseback.
Traditionaly, Calvery dismounted for battle.
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I don't knew where and withj hwo you studied history but ONLY THE MOUNTED INFANTRY AND COSSACKS DISMOUNTED BEFORE BATTLE . The mounted infantry because they where infantry hwo used horses only to get to the battlefield . The COSSACKS where a very good cavalry but also very good infantry . They charged the enemy lines and after that dismounted and fight on the ground . The other times when cavalry dismounted was because of the terain or because they where fighting in small places , like when they where besieged . GOT IT ?
 
Dynamite_cow said:
Well actually, in the early medieval in Sweden, Norway and Finland the soldiers actually DID use horses for transportation only. AFAIK most people around there fought only on feet as late as the 13th century.
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Not only was he speaking in general terms, he specifically said he meant the 14th and 15th centuries.

As for bushes, I agree that it's a bit wierd, but as someone pointed out there's nothing to stop you from jumping it.
 
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