Why this update is the worst possible thing that can happen to this game.

[Talii]

They've Nerfed the Overpowered Bayonet, Hopefully made so that Sword Cavalry now can Engage Bayonet infantry. This Patch works well towards Class Balancing. And Claiming the Bayonet now is one of the worst weapons in the game is just silly, and that's not even counting the MUSKET attached to it.

 

[yedrellow]

No, you clearly are a terrible player and do not understand anything about the mechanics of the game.

This is getting better and better.

What else am I meant to make of someone who claims that the stun time after a blocked stab is only relevant after a chamber when it is in fact longer than the time taken for a down stab counter at close range?

If he was supposedly a good player, then he'd actually test this and determine that I am right.

 

[Hamor]

Lol, all you people talking smack to yedrellow are complete idiots. He is indeed one of the best and is considered the best by most of the community, and this is coming from someone who has 1600 hours on NW and the only person I can't beat is indeed yedrellow. Great argument you have stated yed unfortunately the majority of the community is indeed stupid enough to think this patch is giving melee more diversity.

And to all you people *****ing about cav being under powered. Bull****, put atleast 1500 hours into cav and then you'll be good. What happened to rewarding good players? this just seems way too noob friendly now, way too slow paced and the stuns/timing of overhead is all screwed.

 

[Talii]

Lol, all you people talking smack to yedrellow are complete idiots. He is indeed one of the best and is considered the best by most of the community, and this is coming from someone who has 1600 hours on NW and the only person I can't beat is indeed yedrellow. Great argument you have stated yed unfortunately the majority of the community is indeed stupid enough to think this patch is giving melee more diversity.

And to all you people *****ing about cav being under powered. Bull****, put atleast 1500 hours into cav and then you'll be good.

You dont need to spend 2000 hours to see that Cavalry, in relation to Infantry, is to weak.

 

[Bennie94v]

Lol, all you people talking smack to yedrellow are complete idiots. He is indeed one of the best and is considered the best by most of the community, and this is coming from someone who has 1600 hours on NW and the only person I can't beat is indeed yedrellow. Great argument you have stated yed unfortunately the majority of the community is indeed stupid enough to think this patch is giving melee more diversity.

And to all you people *****ing about cav being under powered. Bull****, put atleast 1500 hours into cav and then you'll be good. What happened to rewarding good players? this just seems way too noob friendly now, way too slow paced and the stuns/timing of overhead is all screwed.

To Quote a Mod's post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAOxY_nHdew&feature=related

 

[BenKenobi]

No, you clearly are a terrible player and do not understand anything about the mechanics of the game.

This is getting better and better.

What else am I meant to make of someone who claims that the stun time after a blocked stab is only relevant after a chamber when it is in fact longer than the time taken for a down stab counter at close range?

If he was supposedly a good player, then he'd actually test this and determine that I am right.

Maybe instead of waltzing in here, proudly showing the gold star medal of the hero of Soviet Union to everyone, you should ask this particular player to duel you and then you can laugh to his face as he is getting up from the dirt, where his terrible skill brought him. It would be very entertaining, I believe. If you would then add some lecture about how melee works in NW, the humiliation would be complete.

 

[yedrellow]

No, you clearly are a terrible player and do not understand anything about the mechanics of the game.

This is getting better and better.

What else am I meant to make of someone who claims that the stun time after a blocked stab is only relevant after a chamber when it is in fact longer than the time taken for a down stab counter at close range?

If he was supposedly a good player, then he'd actually test this and determine that I am right.

Maybe instead of waltzing in here, proudly showing the gold star medal of the hero of Soviet Union to everyone, you should ask this particular player to duel you and then you can laugh to his face as he is getting up from the dirt, where his terrible skill brought him. It would be very entertaining, I believe. If you would then add some lecture about how melee works in NW, the humiliation would be complete.

I am sorry, I will just buy a $2000 plane ticket from Australia to where ever he is from to prove him wrong over mechanics in a video game. There would not be any humiliation, but it is pointless to speculate unless I actually had enough money to throw around to prove a stupid point. Tell him to test the mechanics he is supposedly so good at, before he decides to say that statements regarding them are incorrect.

I don't really care if you don't take the Australian community very seriously in melee standards, but the best Australian players are as good as the best of any other area, just ask Rhade for the synopsis of him verse thorn.

 

[Bennie94v]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

 

[yedrellow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

Look mate, if you're not willing to discuss the merits of changes in melee mechanics, then leave the thread.

 

[Rekoil]

at least try and look at it from their point of view.

i rather enjoyed the pre-patched melee, it rewarded people who worked at it.

 

[Bennie94v]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

Look mate, if you're not willing to discuss the merits of changes in melee mechanics, then leave the thread.

Anyhow, if you don't like it delete the game, because either way you have to deal With it

 

[Rekoil]

Look mate, if you're not willing to discuss the merits of changes in melee mechanics, then leave the thread.

Anyhow, if you don't like it delete the game, because either way you have to deal With it

you would think an update that tears the community would be considered a failure.

it is true, bayonets did require a Nerf, but it was too much.

 

[Bennie94v]

you would think an update that tears the community is considered a failure.

it is true, bayonets did require a Nerf, but it was too much.

opinions are good, long articles are bad. Language moderator be'trolling and a Australian is mad. my poem, entitled "update"
[I Apologize  for the troll-ish behavior, but I am tired of people moaning when a game is updated, i mean it's better then in MM when we waited 5 months for a patch and never got it]

 

[yedrellow]

you would think an update that tears the community is considered a failure.

it is true, bayonets did require a Nerf, but it was too much.

opinions are good, long articles are bad. Language moderator be'trolling and a Australian is mad. my poem, entitled "update"

The purpose of the 'long article' was to actually point out constructively the particular melee mechanics that have been broken because of this update, so that others may test and rebut or agree with me appropriately. If you are unwilling to add to the discussion, then I don't see why you are here.

The only responses from others regarding mechanics that I have received are those claiming that being unable to block a down stab counter from an overhead is due to an inability to manual block rather than stun time. This is despite the fact that this statement is completely testable, yet denied categorically by those who haven't tested it yet.

 

[WildJAMES 007]

In my opinion I'd just go with one the lads on public when I was on last night who said it was better to just wait a month or so (Maybe more like 2 weeks or so), one day seems a bit quick, I think you should give it time before firing at it Im not saying you should love it and stuff just give it some time as you might be jumping the gun a bit eh? Im not overly fond of the new bayonet system but I think ill get used to it as I have for all the other patches .

 

[The Nord]

Let me get my popcorn out

 

[yedrellow]

In my opinion I'd just go with one the lads on public when I was on last night who said it was better to just wait a month or so (Maybe more like 2 weeks or so), one day seems a bit quick, I think you should give it time before firing at it Im not saying you should love it and stuff just give it some time as you might be jumping the gun a bit eh? Im not overly fond of the new bayonet system but I think ill get used to it as I have for all the other patches .

I don't really think that the impression of those who dislike the new melee system will change considerably over the next few weeks. There was, and always will be a divide between players who think that bayonets should be easy to block ala MMrussia or less easy to block ala pre1.005 NW. It is just a matter of time before NW turns back in to the 3 minute + downstab block fest that mmrussia used to be, which the upstab was originally introduced to prevent. Personally, I believe it was a brilliant idea originally to make the bayonet the focus of the game, rather than just another melee weapon.

 

[rejenorst]

Hello Hamor! Recognize you from the server.
yedrellow at the very least isn't *****ing he actually went to the effort to list his concerns and invited discussion. I have no problems with this.. its just when people say PATCHBE****! without details or evidence of significant testing I get annoyed.

opinions are good, long articles are bad. Language moderator be'trolling and a Australian is mad. my poem, entitled "update"
[I Apologize  for the troll-ish behavior, but I am tired of people moaning when a game is updated, i mean it's better then in MM when we waited 5 months for a patch and never got it]

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NONSENSE POOPYPANTS!!!

 

[Noudelle]

My advice is get use to it....Just like how i have to deal with it.Although the horse not stopping in front of a spear or pike is kinda weird now.

my advice is let go NW, wait a month and jump on caribbeans!
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/08/09/parley-of-the-land-caribbean-interview/

 

[rejenorst]

And then restart the cycle of *****ing on another game.... great idea