Why so many people hate Christanity?

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Tarrantmw 说:
We haven't cured cancer, aids, stopped world hunger. Hell, we can't even create a blade of grass, but for some reason, with all of our logic, reasoning, and science, we as a species seem to deem ourselves credible enough to pin point the origin of the universe, using our science, reasoning, and logic; however we in our infinite wisdom can't seem to solve simple things in comparison.
And? Thinking is easy. Doing is hard.

We can see the difference between Lead and Gold, but you try making a pair of tweezers small enough to change their atomic structure.
 
EasyCo506 说:
Archonsod 说:
EasyCo506 说:
The people I'm talking about are the ones who just plain out insult any religion just because it is that. Religion.

Provide one reason why you're belief in an invisible guy you talk to should be accorded any more respect than the average schizophrenics :lol:

Another reason Religion keeps pissing me off, they insist that they should be accorded more respect than those who profess a belief in fairies, Nessie, bogeymen and a host of other such things.

That was rather uncalled for. Seriously.

And people say WE are bad.  :roll:


Why was that uncalled for? Your belief is no more substantiated than the ones he's mentioning. I know it sounds cold but it's true, there really is no empirical evidence for the existence of God, nor of Nessie, nor Fairies, nor whatever.

Seriously, I want to know where was God during that big Tsunami, did he do that?
 
Raz 说:
Vilhjalmr 说:

Remember that the earth was once flat and the center of the universe.


Exactly.

We now know the earth is round, how many other things are we wrong about, that we think our "evidence" has proven otherwise?
 
Tarrantmw 说:
Hidrogeno 说:
Tarrantmw 说:
So, EasyCo506, how exactly was it uncalled for? Do you claim to have valid evidence for your invisible man?


You have any valid evidence for your exploding rock?
"Exploding rock." I see someone skipped out on Astro 110. The evidence is everywhere. It is logic, not mythology. Blackbody radiation, the redshifting of galaxies, and even the chemical makeup of the universe indicates the event of the Big Bang or something like it. In science there isn't just one big book of "truths" but a community of scientists that research and debate.

Do some research yourself for a change.


You know one thing that annoys me about atheists, who rely solely on science?


We haven't cured cancer, aids, stopped world hunger. Hell, we can't even create a blade of grass, but for some reason, with all of our logic, reasoning, and science, we as a species seem to deem ourselves credible enough to pin point the origin of the universe, using our science, reasoning, and logic; however we in our infinite wisdom can't seem to solve simple things in comparison.

When was the last time God cured a disease though? To be honest, if the Bibles anything to go by, he's probably the cock sucker spreading AID's around.
What else would you rely on for scientific evidence other than... science  :???:

Also someone else before said something about how narrow minded Atheists are for taking the Bible literally... So a God's Holy Book where you have to follow every command in it.. Isn't meat to be taken literally. How does that work? It doesn't say in the  Bible "don't take this seriously though".
 
Tarrantmw 说:
You know one thing that annoys me about atheists, who rely solely on science?

We haven't cured cancer, aids, stopped world hunger. Hell, we can't even create a blade of grass, but for some reason, with all of our logic, reasoning, and science, we as a species seem to deem ourselves credible enough to pin point the origin of the universe, using our science, reasoning, and logic; however we in our infinite wisdom can't seem to solve simple things in comparison.
Maybe your sense of what is and isn't simple is off.  Just because you don't understand it doesn't invalidate anything that's been discovered.  We're trying, you just say "book said so" shut your brain down, and bury your head in the sand. 

What makes you think curing world hunger is simpler than discovering a fact that can easily be observed?  One simply requires observation of natural phenomena, the others involve doing.  That's a hell of a lot harder.  We've known how genes replicate for years, but we're only recently being able to do genetic modification, and even then it typically relies on existing traits in nature.

Basically, your post is nothing beyond "I dun get it so it must be fake."

We now know the earth is round, how many other things are we wrong about, that we think our "evidence" has proven otherwise?
So your solution is to...stop looking?  Wow.  That will get us places, won't it.

edit:  you still haven't answered Arch's question:  Why should the Judeo-Christian god be afforded any special accomodation?  Do you believe in Allah, the Buddha, Siva, Crom, Vishnu, Khorne, Zeus, Tyr, Daikokuten, Jarovit, or any of the other millions of invisible beings that humanity has venerated for ages?  Why or why not?
 
my opinion is many people openly bash christianity, because its largly the most mainstream religion and they feel provocative and baddass (wrong spelling?) bashing it, thats my opinion...
 
Tarrantmw 说:
Exactly.

We now know the earth is round, how many other things are we wrong about, that we think our "evidence" has proven otherwise?
That wasn't at all what I meant. Science isn't always instantly correct. It takes a lot of time, and those issues you presented are totally irrelevant to the main issue. What you say to be "relatively simple" things are in fact proven to be a lote more difficult. If there are errors in science's conclusions then it doesn't prove the whole of science on the subject wrong, and neither does it prove the theistic approach correct.
 
Nethoras 说:
my opinion is many people openly bash christianity, because its largly the most mainstream religion and they feel provocative and baddass (wrong spelling?) bashing it, thats my opinion...

Fair enough, but you're wrong. I don't feel badass at all, I hate most religions because of the damage it does to Human civilization on a whole and wish to descredit religion as much as possible to kill it off quicker. Atheism is already spreading so it's only a matter of time.
 
Nethoras 说:
my opinion is many people openly bash christianity, because its largly the most mainstream religion and they feel provocative and baddass (wrong spelling?) bashing it, thats my opinion...
Either that, or we don't bash it until some idiot makes a largely pointless, useless, ignorant statement about atheism.  Arch could have phrased it better, but damned if its not irritating when people condescend to you like no-one's business when you don't buy into whatever resident floating being they've concocted. 

I've never seen atheists protesting outside of churches, but I have seen hundreds of Christians protesting outside research institutes and universities.  I've never seen atheists harass me on the street, but I've been followed by a group of people yelling at me that I was going to burn, had no morals, and was basically worse than ****.  I didn't even say anything to them to provoke it beyond "I don't believe in god, sorry, would you kindly get out of my way so I can go to class?"
 
Merentha 说:
Maybe your sense of what is and isn't simple is off.  Just because you don't understand it doesn't invalidate anything that's been discovered.  We're trying, you just say "book said so" shut your brain down, and bury your head in the sand.

I think this can be agreed on by both parties.


Merentha 说:
What makes you think curing world hunger is simpler than discovering a fact that can easily be observed?

Because we were all here at the beginning of the universe, to observe it...


Merentha 说:
but damned if its not irritating when people condescend to you like no-one's business when you don't buy into whatever resident floating being they've concocted.


Isn't it though?

Merentha 说:
"I dun get it so it must be fake."





Merentha 说:
So your solution is to...stop looking?  Wow.  That will get us places, won't it.

No, If i wanted to stop looking, I wouldn't be talking to you gents.





Raz 说:
If there are errors in science's conclusions then it doesn't prove the whole of science on the subject wrong, and neither does it prove the theistic approach correct.

But why does it seemingly always prove the theistic approach wrong?
 
Merentha 说:
Because there is no theistic approach.  "Book said it."


"Because Darwin said it!"


A lot of Christians I have met have seriously studied what they are into, way past the bounds of "the book said so".


So far in my life, I have never had Christians running after me telling me I was going to burn in hell, even after I've told them I don't go to church, or I think organized religion is evil.

I have, however had to deal with pompous individuals telling me that I mindlessly worship an invisible man in the sky.
 
Darwin isn't the champion of atheism, he was some 19th Century scientist how furthered our understanding of Evolution (it'd be suggested before then).
But it's not because Darwin said it, if anything it'd be "Darwin found FACTS, here they are, here's the source, he's the evidence"
Saying "he's the verse" doesn't really cut it.
 
My thoughts:

I don't really believe in any religion, as I find it hard to go off of so little evidence. And I also do not believe in prayer to a God that seems to have done nothing for those below him. It also seems to me that many people who follow religions, do not seem to follow the rules that their Holy Books and such state they should follow. I do not hate Christianity or any other religion, I just don't believe in them. Not very well based thoughts, but I'll stick with them.
 
Since many people quoted me, I'll just give the answer without the quote.

It was uncalled for because, basically, he just called anyone with a religion at the same level as a schizophrenic.

That's pretty insulting to me.

And I think most people do it for the sole reason that we CAN'T prove it. I might as well say, give me a link that shows the universe being created at the beginning. No one can do that. So should I call you crazy for thinking it? That's pretty much what you did to me (and any one else with a religion)

So yea, that's pretty insulting.
 
You know, I think this thread should be locked.

Who ever said it was right, all this will do is get someone mad/banned/whatever. I guess religious threads do bring out the worst in us. So, on a very unrealted note, did anyone see KON_AIRS (I think that's right, sorry if it's not) new mod for .892?

Looks really good. :smile:
 
Good point. But what is the answer?

That Christians are crazy?

That atheists are crazy?

That everyone is crazy?

That anyone with religion is crazy?

That a lot of people are about to go with answer 1?

That people will respond with flames?

Who will then end up being flamed back?

Which will start a flame war?

Which we are already in?

Which will be followed by a new question?

Will anyone still read this?

 
Go re-read the thread, and you might find yourself a step closer, to me it just seems it comes down to the individual.

Some people think religion is for mindless masses, who are controlled by it.

Some people don't like people telling them they are going to be tortured for eternity. Others perhaps the hypocrisy of the followers.
 
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