Why so many people hate Christanity?

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Cleaning Agent 说:
Rabid Potatoe 说:
More like how low. Those bastards prey on the weak minded and the empty pocketed.

:roll:

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I think he refers to the irony of you, as a christian saying that (I assume you're a christian, yes?). Christianity, like many mainstream religions live off the poor and middle class. The weak minded part I will not touch with a ten foot pole (only because I am not very eager to get myself banned), but I think he's referring to that as well. But then again, that's just me.
 
I am always amused when Christians rag on Scientology.  From an outsider's point of view, its not that different.
 
Getting dropped out of a boeing superplane as aliens frozen by an evil god emperor for moronic reasons into a giant volcano which can fit over 6billion people... a real volcano on earth which can fit 6 billion people who's souls fled their body and entered soulless homo sapien bodies sounds very different than a divine ruler creating us in his image.
 
I'm not a fan of any religion, nor do i like what is often done in the name of religion. I am an atheist, i follow science and logic which places me firmly against the whole 'believe because you should, even though we can't hope to try to prove it' stance of religion. I think that people want reasons and answers to things that have no purpose. The meaning of life, what happens after death etc. How can religion hope to be correct about these things. I would say that life has no meaning, it just occurs by seemingly random chance. I use the word 'seemingly' not to imply a guiding hand, only to say that life isn't purely random, selection etc, and the propensity of one molecule to react in a certain way mean that it probably isn't random. Maths and chaos theory and all that!

What i don't like about religion, Christianity has a great example but it is certainly not exclusive, is the wars it causes. Take the troubles in Northern Ireland, Christians fighting Christians is just more stupid than fighting others!! You have Sunni's and Shia fighting in Iraq. I think this just shows that religion is all about control, especially if people want to fight those which believe in the very same god(s) but in different ways. It is all about having it your way.

If there was an omnipotent being, wouldn't they sort out the troubles of the earth? And, should one exist which clearly doesn't sort anything out, whats the point in preying to and praising them anyway?

As you can tell I dislike religion, especially Christianity and Islam. I don't dislike many people who follow them, they can be decent people but i do however dislike those who use religion to further their own personal gains and justify wars.
 
A question for those professing to be atheists:
I'm not picking on you Luthius, just curious! :wink:

So if you are an atheist, you do not believe there is ANY God / gods yes?
So what happens then after you die? Does a person just end? Are we
merely a conglomeration of complicated biological matter?
Or do we have immortal spirits that live on after our biological bodies expire?

I ask this question because we as members of humanity (that assumption may not
be applicable to certain politicians of both political parties in the USA), have been
trying to find the answer that question for eons. The attempt to provide the answer
to that question of what happens after I die has been the primary motivation for ALL religions.

:neutral:
 
Jericho 说:
So if you are an atheist, you do not believe there is ANY God / gods yes?
So what happens then after you die? Does a person just end? Are we
merely a conglomeration of complicated biological matter?
Or do we have immortal spirits that live on after our biological bodies expire?
Correct.
Nothing, your sense of self will vanish when your neurons stop firing.
Yes.
Yes.
No.
 
Cleaning Agent 说:
D'Sparil 说:
Archonsod 说:
Cleisthenes 说:
I think Scientology gets as much **** as it does because people make films like Battlefield Earth (Travolta) and jump around on sofas (Cruise).

What, and nothing to do with the fact that it's creator told everyone beforehand he was going to create a religion as an experiment?
Besides, the guy was a professional science fiction writter. And some people still believe in that scientology ****. Amazing.

Besides, they believe humans came from an alien called Quaark who laid his eggs in a volcano or something. And they have brainwashing camps.
Hardly the only religion with brainwashing camps.
 
Jericho 说:
A question for those professing to be atheists:
I'm not picking on you Luthius, just curious! :wink:

So if you are an atheist, you do not believe there is ANY God / gods yes?
So what happens then after you die? Does a person just end? Are we
merely a conglomeration of complicated biological matter?
Or do we have immortal spirits that live on after our biological bodies expire?

I ask this question because we as members of humanity (that assumption may not
be applicable to certain politicians of both political parties in the USA), have been
trying to find the answer that question for eons. The attempt to provide the answer
to that question of what happens after I die has been the primary motivation for ALL religions.

:neutral:

Yeah, you will be dead, the person known as you will cease to be, and the world will go on.

In a few generations no one will remember your name.

That's how life is.

For some people this is too much to deal with, so there are lots of explanations to make things "fit" better, doesn't mean that they do.
 
So if you are an atheist, you do not believe there is ANY God / gods yes?
    Yes.
So what happens then after you die? Does a person just end? Are we
merely a conglomeration of complicated biological matter?
We rot.
Yes.
Yes.
Or do we have immortal spirits that live on after our biological bodies expire?
No.

We die. Our Cognition ends. We don't live. We rot. It's simple.
 
I don't know what to call myself. I'm not undecided, so I'm not agnostic, and I do believe in the concept of something remotely-god-like (the universe), so I wouldn't consider myself an atheist, unless you are talking about the scriptural God with a capital G. In that case, I most certainly am an atheist.

I believe in a profound oneness of all things and in an ultimate balance that the universe strives for (but never reaches). Basically, we arbitrarily manufacture absolutes to facilitate communication, even though absolutes do not exist.
 
Despite my being a christian, I don't belive in any of the "magic" elements such as the soul, or a higher being who can seemingly create matter out of nothing (even he doesn't deserve to break the laws of thermodynamics :razz:).

I believe that when we die, there would be nothing. No thoughts, sight, sound, or smell, as the brain which processes all this has failed. We are just a big collection of tissues interacting with each other, with designs coded in self replicating double helixes of DNA. Plus, how would a soul work? An electromagnetic radiation of some kind? Some sort of half-way point between antimatter and matter?
 
Instag0 说:
I don't know what to call myself. I'm not undecided, so I'm not agnostic, and I do believe in the concept of something remotely-god-like (the universe), so I wouldn't consider myself an atheist, unless you are talking about the scriptural God with a capital G. In that case, I most certainly am an atheist.

I believe in a profound oneness of all things and in an ultimate balance that the universe strives for (but never reaches). Basically, we arbitrarily manufacture absolutes to facilitate communication, even though absolutes do not exist.
That looks fairly agnostic to me. You believe in something but can't pin it down, so you're not quite sure. Agnostic, like me.
 
Cymro 说:
Despite my being a christian, I don't belive in any of the "magic" elements such as the soul, or a higher being who can seemingly create matter out of nothing (even he doesn't deserve to break the laws of thermodynamics :razz:).

I believe that when we die, there would be nothing. No thoughts, sight, sound, or smell, as the brain which processes all this has failed. We are just a big collection of tissues interacting with each other, with designs coded in self replicating double helixes of DNA. Plus, how would a soul work? An electromagnetic radiation of some kind? Some sort of half-way point between antimatter and matter?

Deism perhaps?
 
But I'm fairly certain in my belief of oneness, I just don't believe in a scriptural God (or a concept of god which involves something like "Jesus in the Sky" or some sort of creator).

I only believe in the universe. No God involved. The universe is it.

And since we're talking about death; I'm with the 'we rot' guys.
 
I don't really get how a lot of Christians in this thread have said "I am a Christian but I don't believe in *such and such* aspects of it.
Is that even allowed? Are you truly a Christian if you don't believe 100% of the Christian faith? How can take such a picky attitude to something that demands complete submission?
Are you really the same religion as someone else if you only just believe in the same vague idea?

Actual question, if someone could answer that I'd be grateful.
 
Cymro 说:
Despite my being a christian, I don't belive in any of the "magic" elements such as the soul, or a higher being who can seemingly create matter out of nothing (even he doesn't deserve to break the laws of thermodynamics :razz:).

I believe that when we die, there would be nothing. No thoughts, sight, sound, or smell, as the brain which processes all this has failed. We are just a big collection of tissues interacting with each other, with designs coded in self replicating double helixes of DNA. Plus, how would a soul work? An electromagnetic radiation of some kind? Some sort of half-way point between antimatter and matter?

So you believe in the Christian "Moral code" but thats it?
 
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