Kaptain_Krunch
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Ouch.. I it is confusing, it just doesnt sound like china is one of the factions tho..... i mean the khertigs are the closest ones!
Which factions are .. which?
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Rhodok - Greek (Maybe Medieval Greece? Did the Greeks have crossbows in the 13th century?)
Khergit - Mongolian
Vaegir - Eastern European, maybe Polish (shrug) or Slavic.
Swadian - Franks maybe, (yes, theres a difference between them and the French.)
Nords - This should be blatantly obvious.
Just as I see them.
Khergit - Mongolian
Vaegir - Eastern European, maybe Polish (shrug) or Slavic.
Swadian - Franks maybe, (yes, theres a difference between them and the French.)
Nords - This should be blatantly obvious.
Just as I see them.
thedudee95
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i believe that the viegers are also vikingish with a touch of noblety
FantastikO
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In my opinion, the Rhodoks are not going to be 'Swiss' or 'Polish' etc. They are yet to be decided. Like a fetus which has not yet taken up a gender. It would simply be stupid for the developers to go into such detail of giving them the characteristics of another European culture (Like Medieval ll: total war).
I personally think they would be going for a diversity effect and will probably be going with something like Greece or Arabic or something else unique. A few of you are putting a lot of thought into this, thinking of historical backgrounds and cultures of countries that you would not see a replica in games. (ie: Sweden). It's common sense.
I see Vaegirs as a slavic culture and Swadians are obviously a western European culture, but I think that the specific culture is left to the player's imagination.
I personally think they would be going for a diversity effect and will probably be going with something like Greece or Arabic or something else unique. A few of you are putting a lot of thought into this, thinking of historical backgrounds and cultures of countries that you would not see a replica in games. (ie: Sweden). It's common sense.
I see Vaegirs as a slavic culture and Swadians are obviously a western European culture, but I think that the specific culture is left to the player's imagination.
Kinda, yeah.An4Sh 说:
Actually now that it's mentioned, the Rhodoks do hit me as being Polish. They just need more names that are nigh unpronounceable and "moar chanmailz".
But I'm pretty much set on the Vaegirs being Slavs. But perhaps not Russian as there's a lack of Boyars and Cossacks. Also Rus Helms.
Kaptain_Krunch
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Well i think turkish, or byzantine (same thing), for the vaegiers
Manu
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Areze 说:
From my scant knowledge, crosbows were pushed by the italian cities in the 14th century - the french kings tried hiring italian mercenary crosbowmen to counter the english's longbows - didn't work great in open battle.
By the 13th century, greece was still part of the byzantine empire and probably used their weapons, which were bows as far as ranged weapons were concerned if I remember right.
Gabeed
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I know that the Greeks were at least aware of crossbows by the 13th century, as they learned about them from French crusaders carrying them to the Holy Land during the First Crusade. As Manu said, though, Greece in the Middle Ages was under the rule of the Byzantine Empire--medieval Greece was NOTHING like archaic and classical Greece, ie Byzantine Greeks didn't fight in phalanxes.
In fact, the Rhodoks aren't really like even the archaic Greeks . . .I mean, spear doesn't equal Greece, especially since many Rhodoks don't use shields, a big must when it came to phalanxes and phalangitais. Plenty of other kingdoms used spears.
In fact, the Rhodoks aren't really like even the archaic Greeks . . .I mean, spear doesn't equal Greece, especially since many Rhodoks don't use shields, a big must when it came to phalanxes and phalangitais. Plenty of other kingdoms used spears.
Manu
Sergeant at Arms
As someone else said, they seems to me quite close to tialian troops of the late medieval/early renaissance period : mostly polearms and crossbows for the citie's armies - the cavalary was the domain of the condotierres - maybe in part because it made it easier for them to turn tail if the battle turned against them (italian condotierres weren't exactly known for fighting to the bitter end...)
Skit
Knight
Naridill 说:Justiciar 说:I quite like Skit's Baltic parallel. I used to think of the Vaegir as being akin to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, so I can roll with that.
Not sure the Polish playerbase would be happy with it, though.
Meh, screw'em. I'm not happy with our King wearing a muslim insigne, either, but I'll deal with it.
we all got something wanted to be changed or implemented in m&b,like i want swamps implemented so that the weakness of heavy armor would come out,but i doubt that it will get implemented
Kaptain_Krunch
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Mmmm....
Couldnt you program them not to or to step into it, but swamps would be kool to fight in, although it would have to be very decorated.
Otherwise, the one thign we know for certain is the Nords are a sort of viking/ dainish type of faction, and i think were pretty sure the khertig are mongolian! (i hate figthin the khertigs cuz they are all horseback
Couldnt you program them not to or to step into it, but swamps would be kool to fight in, although it would have to be very decorated.
Otherwise, the one thign we know for certain is the Nords are a sort of viking/ dainish type of faction, and i think were pretty sure the khertig are mongolian! (i hate figthin the khertigs cuz they are all horseback
Skit
Knight
i meant you would have to get the enemy into the swamp for example:You place your Vaegir archers on one side of the swamp while the swadian inf/cav are on the other,the swadians go thou the swamp to reach your archers,you charge with your archers.The archers being as light infantry would slaughter the inf/cav no problem
