Where did the revolutionaries go?

[Lord Samuel]

I don't know, but it looks like liberal revolutions are doomed to epic failure these years:

Burma: fail.
Tibet/China: epic fail
Iran: ****'s been uselessly hitting the fan.

This trend tends to confirm Lenin's intuition that a good revolution needs a group of trained professional revolutionaries to succeed.

"Otpor" in Serbia (2000) comes to mind. These guys were trained by Gene Sharp, "the Machiavelli of non-violence".

What do you think about it?

 

[Mage246]

Aren't you forgetting all of those peaceful Eastern European revolutions?

 

[clayton117]

I don't know, but it looks like liberal revolutions are doomed to epic failure these years:

Burma: fail.
Tibet/China: epic fail
Iran: ****'s been uselessly hitting the fan.

This trend tends to confirm Lenin's intuition that a good revolution needs a group of trained professional revolutionaries to succeed.

"Otpor" in Serbia (2000) comes to mind. These guys were trained by Gene Sharp, "the Machiavelli of non-violence".

What do you think about it?

Ok well if they were "Trained" then it really wouldnt be revolutionaries , but militia then, and then it would probaly be considered a war becuase a trained army versus another one

 

[An4Sh]

You're some kind of stupid alright, whether the people revolting are part of the Army or just some peasants doesn't change the fact that it's a revolution.

 

[Untitled.]

I don't know, but it looks like liberal revolutions are doomed to epic failure these years:

Burma: fail.
Tibet/China: epic fail
Iran: ****'s been uselessly hitting the fan.

This trend tends to confirm Lenin's intuition that a good revolution needs a group of trained professional revolutionaries to succeed.

"Otpor" in Serbia (2000) comes to mind. These guys were trained by Gene Sharp, "the Machiavelli of non-violence".

What do you think about it?

The revolution eats its own.

 

[Adorno]

The revolution is coming... oh, it's coming 

 

[Jadow]

The revolutions in eastern Europe happened because Gorbachev ended Soviet control over those countries... And because the majority of people wanted democracy. If There was another Stalin instead there would probably still be an iron cutain.

As for needing trained revolutionaries, that's only the case if there is a strong authoritarian government with a strong policing and counter-revolutionary apparatus.

 

[Negro of Serbia]

I don't know, but it looks like liberal revolutions are doomed to epic failure these years:

Burma: fail.
Tibet/China: epic fail
Iran: ****'s been uselessly hitting the fan.

This trend tends to confirm Lenin's intuition that a good revolution needs a group of trained professional revolutionaries to succeed.

"Otpor" in Serbia (2000) comes to mind. These guys were trained by Gene Sharp, "the Machiavelli of non-violence".

What do you think about it?

Ok well if they were "Trained" then it really wouldnt be revolutionaries , but militia then, and then it would probaly be considered a war becuase a trained army versus another one

"Otpor" weren't an army, as a matter of fact, they didn't use physical force at all, it was all about raising the consciousness of people, and giving them the reason to believe that it is possible to overthrow a government by collective action 

 

[silencekyo]

I spy a necromancer!

 

[NOVGOROD]

I spy a necromancer!

Gravedigger.

 

[Negro of Serbia]

sorry guys for reviving this topic...won't do it

 

[satanswarrior]

Satan kills all mods! satan smites thy. satan is the purity of evil! **** all opposers! the flam of satan shall never die!!!! HAIL SATAN!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[silencekyo]

And it seems Satan's warrior can't spell too.

 

[satanswarrior]

Satan has no need for gramer **** nuts

 

[Adorno]

What does all the Satan talk have to do with the topic?

 

[Familyguy1]

What does all the Satan talk have to do with the topic?

idk.

 

[siprus]

! people shouldn't be banned cause of their religion 

 

[Archonsod]

Why the hell not?

 

[siprus]

cause it's discrimination.

just kidding.

people should be banned if their religion causes them to act like idiots.

 

[Magorian Aximand]

No, they should be banned for acting like idiots. If their religion "causes" them to do it, it doesn't really make a difference.