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Cyborg Eastern European

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Steadily going stagnating, as usual.

But with a disposable income this time! :party:
And no time to use it. :party:
But there's a plague, so I get to use it! :party:
And no hardware. :party:


Side note: I keep trying to use the old ctrl-shift-2 combination to open the smiley window. Goshdratit! :mad:
 

Kobrag

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Yeah. Having money is good. All the brandy, all the time.
Being constantly at work or caring for family isn't though.
And now I can do neither. :ohdear:
 

Abraxium

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Hikkikomoris.

There is one part of my brain that says I shouldn't make myself uncomfortable by finding out more about things that are taboo to me, things that I don't want to know of. There is also another part, which is much louder, that tells me to avoid becoming like influencers who are like "omg sad news make brainy go hurty : ((("
Man, the concept of these recluses are my worst nightmare. A lot of them feel rejected by society, so they in turn reject society themselves. I am unsure whether I feel saddened by or if I look down on them, as they are what I fear the most of becoming. Seeing it is definitely soul-shattering, but they are obviously suffering from illness and in need of help. There seems to be two ways of helping them, hiring a friend/girlfriend (because Japan) to take them outside, or support groups. I won't say either is better, as the latter might spiral them further into the hole. I know that this also exists in the western world, but here we'd write it off as a depressed hermit. I wonder how we'll deal with it in the future, with the advent of a more digital world, it has definitely become easier to stay in your home.
 

Kentucky James VII

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Hikkikomori are directly caused by the ridiculous education expectations of young people and how there is no transition to adulthood which doesn't involve going through exam hell. So long as this system exists it is still going to produce Hikkikomori, but sadly this system has proven highly profitable for companies in these countries and beneficial for the governments. All the Singapore-style countries, South Korea especially have become world powers by breaking the eggs of youth mental health. It's completely barbaric but barring a total rejection of the Singapore socioeconomic model, it's going to stay. And it's making its way out of Asia at this point as well.

I don't think being a recluse is bad, in fact I think too many people just accept the social order and allow guilt mechanisms to dictate everything they do, but with hikkikomori it's a perfect storm of quiet / autistic kids being thrown into a hypercapitalist totalitarian hellscape which demands total robotic adherence, while at the same time having a hospitable traditional parent culture which still permits their children to stay at home forever. These conditions combined don't really exist (yet) outside of East Asia, so I don't think you should worry about getting as bad as that.
 

Abraxium

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It wasn't my intent to come across as being the introverted type who is at risk, I have a solid social circle. It's just unfound fear of who I might have become, had I taken other choices in life.*

I wasn't aware it was exclusively for the pressure from a society (most often parents and school figures) which has extremely high expectations of its citizens and shames those who faulter the slightest. From the documentaries I watched, hikkikomoris themselves describe it as them being bullied into reclusion because of comparatively minor things, of what hobbies or behaviour one has. It would as you say definitely be exaggerated by potential autism. By the profits made by the corporations and companies, you mean that the culture itself which puts a great deal of prestige on hard work and good grades is good for business in that it's employees will always place social life second? As you noted on with cultural differences, I feel I shouldn't have approached this topic with a largely western mindset where individualism is king and compare it to a vastly different culture and society.

*** Some hikkikomoris are admittedly "normal people" who made one small mistake along their career or studies. Using examples from one of the documentaries, one university girl with a stable life and a boyfriend, failed 2-3 exams and seemed to give up on her studies altogether after the following immense depression. Another elderly man worked for over 40 years until his body gave up, only for him to abandon all forms of social life.
 

Abraxium

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Did you know that the plural of pizza is pizze?

Speaking of Italy, food and Asia. I got spaghetti when I ordered noodles at the nearest Chinese restaurant, the owners are Chinese, so the local clientele is to blame for this chauvinistic behaviour. Talk about gluten intolerance.
 

Bromden

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Did you know that the plural of pizza is pizze?
I thought it was pizzii.

Here "chinese food" in chinese restaurants is mostly just rice with pieces of poultry meat, with slight variations of sauce and vegetables. It's because the local chinese think that we are dumb and don't know what real chinese food is actually like. They are largely correct.
 

Abraxium

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Plural for masculine words ending with o is i.
Plural for feminine words ending with a is e. It gets worse when you get to the many forms of "the".

I am quite aware that's the case throughout Chinese restaurants, it's like when tourists go to Asia, proclaiming that they can handle spicy food just because they put paprika powder on their buttered bread in school.
 

Kentucky James VII

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By the profits made by the corporations and companies, you mean that the culture itself which puts a great deal of prestige on hard work and good grades is good for business in that it's employees will always place social life second?
There's that, but the more material reason is that Singapore pioneered a kind of authoritarian capitalism in the 60s which everyone in the Sinosphere copied. The One Child policy, massive self-contained apartment complexes, Keynesianism on steroids, corporations working very closely with the state etc, all came from Singapore originally. That led to economic growth at a rate nobody in history has ever seen, with rice farmers having kids who become high tech nuclear researchers, leading to companies and parents and teachers all expecting / demanding that everyone dedicate their entire childhood to education in order to keep the economy expanding. The Confucian culture does play a bit of a role but I suspect that it's the Singapore model which shaped East Asian parenting methods rather than the other way round.

The main thing that makes East Asia exceptional is that corporations and the state don't have clear boundaries like in the rest of the world. Some Japanese corporations actually predate the state itself by centuries, while the larger Chinese corporations are just branded wings of the government and will do censorship and surveillance on their behalf. A Korean industrial firm can basically just ask the government to funnel students from university into their corporation. This is what "capitalism with Asian / Chinese values" is euphemism for: Totalitarian Capitalism.
 

Abraxium

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I'm sorry not to reply with an equally detailed post but that sounds... Horrible. I was told of Samsung's questionable relation and collaboration with the Korean government but I never quite imagined something like that. What echoes in my mind is the reminder of how planned economy was/has been effective for essential wares/infrastructure of the country yet falls short when it comes to consumer goods, with the Keynesianism on drugs it seems to more than make up for that. No wonder that the far east has seen such economic upswing in the last decades. Is it customary throughout all of East Asia to more or less halt traffic and certain businesses/construction during exam day? If I recall correctly, in Korea it is by law required for taxi drivers to drive students to the exam for free if they are almost running late.
 

Cyborg Eastern European

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Finally had a work shift after 58 days in limbo. 12 solid hours, and I'm already done for the entire week.
This Human Malware stuff is starting to feel weird.

Oh, well, at least I don't live in one of the aforementioned hellish dystopias, I guess! :party:
 

๖Kern

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There's that, but the more material reason is that Singapore pioneered a kind of authoritarian capitalism in the 60s which everyone in the Sinosphere copied. The One Child policy, massive self-contained apartment complexes, Keynesianism on steroids, corporations working very closely with the state etc, all came from Singapore originally. That led to economic growth at a rate nobody in history has ever seen, with rice farmers having kids who become high tech nuclear researchers, leading to companies and parents and teachers all expecting / demanding that everyone dedicate their entire childhood to education in order to keep the economy expanding. The Confucian culture does play a bit of a role but I suspect that it's the Singapore model which shaped East Asian parenting methods rather than the other way round.

The main thing that makes East Asia exceptional is that corporations and the state don't have clear boundaries like in the rest of the world. Some Japanese corporations actually predate the state itself by centuries, while the larger Chinese corporations are just branded wings of the government and will do censorship and surveillance on their behalf. A Korean industrial firm can basically just ask the government to funnel students from university into their corporation. This is what "capitalism with Asian / Chinese values" is euphemism for: Totalitarian Capitalism.
This is actually pretty interesting subject. May I ask where you acquired the knowledge of this topic?