What the hell is this new command system!!

[bbaydogdu]

That's terrible. Devs, why did you mess with someting already working fine? Awful menu design and terrible command keys configuration. The whole system sucks. I hope you guys bring back the good old system. I don't understand how you people thought that was good idea ffs.

 

[Ananda_The_Destroyer]

 

[Antaeus]

you mean you have to learn new muscle memory?

If they change it back everyone who has gotten used to the new system over the last month or 2 will get upset. Give it two weeks and you'll be fine.

 

[danEN]

They changed it to be more suitable for consoles basically, and then everyone disliked the radial menu so they changed it back to whatever the **** this is.

 

[Ananda_The_Destroyer]

you mean you have to learn new muscle memory?

If they change it back everyone who has gotten used to the new system over the last month or 2 will get upset. Give it two weeks and you'll be fine.

No! Face direction and hold fire are ruined and useless now because they take too many presses! It was better before!

 

[Antaeus]

It takes too many presses? How long does it take to press a button twice?

It's muscle memory. You'll get used to it. Give it time.

 

[Ananda_The_Destroyer]

It takes too many presses? How long does it take to press a button twice?

It's muscle memory. You'll get used to it. Give it time.

You don't know so maybe go try it out for yourself. See how it feels to change face direction and put hold fire off and on throughout a battle.

 

[Dearmad]

Why are you defending more movements required? That makes no sense. Efficiency was there, this is ridiculous.

 

[Antaeus]

Why are you defending more movements required? That makes no sense. Efficiency was there, this is ridiculous.

I'm not defending the change. I'm just saying that it isn't as bad as complainers think. It's a very minor change that can be relearned in weeks. I get that it's different, and will require some time to adjust, but had they started with this layout nobody would be complaining because they would have already learned it.

What I don't like is developers seeing complaints and making feeling they need to change things, then unchange things then change things, because online there is a negative comment bias - as people who are OK are unlikely to post.

 

[froggyluv]

Havent tried it but all this talk of button pushing has me VERY concerned. I mean this a PC game...button pushing?!!

 

[Antaeus]

Havent tried it but all this talk of button pushing has me VERY concerned. I mean this a PC game...button pushing?!!

They've reorganised the layout. To get a unit to hold fire, you have to select the unit, then hit F3 then F2. Difficult times. I've been playing the layout since it was changed on the beta branch, I've relearned the muscle memory, It's an extra click, but it's fine.

 

[D0c1]

F1-3 will stay the same but I'm looking into ways to include one click orders on F4-10 on PC.

e.g. "Toggle Fire" will still be under the F3 list but players will be able to also give that command with one of the F4-10 keys.

@Antaeus people are mad because f4-10 have no function now. PC games are characterized by having the ability of binding many buttons to do different things.
having things in menus is a console feature.
people would have complained of this layout even if it was the first one because the keyboard has many keys. why not use them?

 

[Antaeus]

Oh right. It's a PC vs console keyboard efficiency thing. Forget I said anything.

 

[stevehoos]

The entire game is headed into console despair.

 

[black_bulldog]

Instead of just giving us the old commands back they gave us the gamepad commands. When TW introduced the radial commands I specifically asked if we were getting the old layout back and I was told yes. That's what pisses me off the most. There is no reason in the world they couldn't have more than 1 way to lay out the commands. Better yet why not give us the ability to rebind keys like so many other games do so we can have it how we want it. But I guess that's too difficult for TW too.

 

[bbaydogdu]

you mean you have to learn new muscle memory?

If they change it back everyone who has gotten used to the new system over the last month or 2 will get upset. Give it two weeks and you'll be fine.

It could be optional. What's the point of forcing players to use something inconvenient even when there is already something working fine. That's what I'm upset about. It's like ruining someone's game experience on purpose.

 

[Highest of all Landers]

It is not a matter of learning how to use the new UI menu, the problem is that it worse than the previous one for no apparent reason. Want to create a radial menu for consoles? Fine, create a new one, leave the perfectly fine existing one alone.

There isn't a single positive change to this new menu.

 

[Dearmad]

^^^ this.

 

[sniparsexe]

old system was much better

 

[Ananda_The_Destroyer]

I've been playing the layout since it was changed on the beta branch

But you never faced direction more then once or you wouldn't have posted

How long does it take to press a button twice?

You're completely wrong