What purpose do the Sarranids serve?

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Seawied86 说:
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"Sand Heads"

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Take your racism and GTFO
Maybe if you bothered to read my two other posts you would have noticed why I gave them that name.
I'm not being racist, so before you go around making assumptions, you might want to pay attention.
 
Sarranid mamlikes do use shield and scimitar in some cases . . .

referring to the "sarranid swords"
 
The Sarranids are the most powerful faction in the game. I always try to avoid fighting them. Here's their secret:
  ("kingdom_1_reinforcements_a", "{!}kingdom_1_reinforcements_a", 0, 0, fac_commoners, 0, [(trp_swadian_militia,2,6),(trp_swadian_recruit,4,7)]),
  ("kingdom_1_reinforcements_b", "{!}kingdom_1_reinforcements_b", 0, 0, fac_commoners, 0, [(trp_swadian_crossbowman,2,6),(trp_swadian_skirmisher,4,7)]),
  ("kingdom_1_reinforcements_c", "{!}kingdom_1_reinforcements_c", 0, 0, fac_commoners, 0, [(trp_swadian_man_at_arms,3,6)]),

  ("kingdom_2_reinforcements_a", "{!}kingdom_2_reinforcements_a", 0, 0, fac_commoners, 0, [(trp_vaegir_footman,2,6),(trp_vaegir_recruit,4,7)]),
  ("kingdom_2_reinforcements_b", "{!}kingdom_2_reinforcements_b", 0, 0, fac_commoners, 0, [(trp_vaegir_archer,2,6),(trp_vaegir_skirmisher,3,5),(trp_vaegir_footman,1,3)]),
  ("kingdom_2_reinforcements_c", "{!}kingdom_2_reinforcements_c", 0, 0, fac_commoners, 0, [(trp_vaegir_horseman,3,6)]),

  ("kingdom_3_reinforcements_a", "{!}kingdom_3_reinforcements_a", 0, 0, fac_commoners, 0, [(trp_khergit_skirmisher,2,6),(trp_khergit_tribesman,4,7)]),
  ("kingdom_3_reinforcements_b", "{!}kingdom_3_reinforcements_b", 0, 0, fac_commoners, 0, [(trp_khergit_horse_archer,2,6),(trp_khergit_skirmisher,4,7)]),
  ("kingdom_3_reinforcements_c", "{!}kingdom_3_reinforcements_c", 0, 0, fac_commoners, 0, [(trp_khergit_lancer,3,6)]),

  ("kingdom_4_reinforcements_a", "{!}kingdom_4_reinforcements_a", 0, 0, fac_commoners, 0, [(trp_nord_footman,4,:cool:,(trp_nord_recruit,2,4)]),
  ("kingdom_4_reinforcements_b", "{!}kingdom_4_reinforcements_b", 0, 0, fac_commoners, 0, [(trp_nord_archer,1,3),(trp_nord_huntsman,3,5),(trp_nord_footman,2,5)]),
  ("kingdom_4_reinforcements_c", "{!}kingdom_4_reinforcements_c", 0, 0, fac_commoners, 0, [(trp_nord_warrior,3,6)]),

  ("kingdom_5_reinforcements_a", "{!}kingdom_5_reinforcements_a", 0, 0, fac_commoners, 0, [(trp_rhodok_spearman,3,7),(trp_rhodok_tribesman,3,6)]),
  ("kingdom_5_reinforcements_b", "{!}kingdom_5_reinforcements_b", 0, 0, fac_commoners, 0, [(trp_rhodok_trained_crossbowman,2,6),(trp_rhodok_crossbowman,4,7)]),
  ("kingdom_5_reinforcements_c", "{!}kingdom_5_reinforcements_c", 0, 0, fac_commoners, 0, [(trp_rhodok_sergeant,3,6)]),

  ("kingdom_6_reinforcements_a", "{!}kingdom_6_reinforcements_a", 0, 0, fac_commoners, 0, [(trp_sarranid_footman,3,7),(trp_sarranid_recruit,3,6)]),
  ("kingdom_6_reinforcements_b", "{!}kingdom_6_reinforcements_b", 0, 0, fac_commoners, 0, [(trp_sarranid_archer,2,6),(trp_sarranid_skirmisher,4,7)]),
  ("kingdom_6_reinforcements_c", "{!}kingdom_6_reinforcements_c", 0, 0, fac_commoners, 0, [(trp_sarranid_mamluke,3,6)]),
They can spawn one of the game's best troops in their castles!
 
i wish they could put a east asia faction so it makes the game more different. like Korean Japanese or Chinese. i dont like the mongols...
 
Lord Drake 说:
Austupaio> Didn't mean to offend anyone, I've just given them that nick name since they seem to have their heads in the sand, the Kergits and Rhodoks are killing them off fast.
I am not buyin it, watch what you write.
 
Kleidophoros 说:
Lord Drake 说:
Austupaio> Didn't mean to offend anyone, I've just given them that nick name since they seem to have their heads in the sand, the Kergits and Rhodoks are killing them off fast.
I am not buyin it, watch what you write.
I don't really care if you "buy it" my intention remains the same. If it offended someone then fine, it should and has been changed.
 
Charlie Brooker 说:
Sand heads wasn't enough, now they're going to be called "Nidders."  Really? :razz:

I'm going to go with
sandnidders
:shock: don't ban me

For content, I think the Saranids are basically another Swadian-type faction, except with bows instead of longbows. Their first-level archers--which are really javelin-throwers, hardly ever get kills--however, and are thus quite difficult to promote. There are also no Sarranadian (hmm...) companions, which is a little odd, although I'm pretty sure I saw a claimant to their throne somewhere. They also have FANTASTIC equipment: their armors especially have a terrific balance of protection and speed. My current set, hardened Sarranid Guard Armor if I recall, weighs a mere 5.0 but gives +40/+10 to armor. I don't think there's any better armor that weighs less than 18. That may sound a little low, especially in the leg department, but on a Heavy Hunter, I'm only getting hit if I get badly bogged down in a mass of infantry.

 
None of the companions is very faction specific. :???:

And yeah, Arwa the Pearled One is the Sarranid claimant. Her nickname always sounds like a euphemism to me. :/
 
Why?  She has a beautiful necklace, it was a wedding present from her late husband.
 
The one thing i hate bout those mamelukes is that they spawn in such big numbers in their lords party. Makes the other factions look REALLY weak. I hope this will be fixed...

And i feel like, since everything faction has its own strength and weakness, the sarranids should have it 2. If they are supposed to be ballanced make it so that their cavalry is maximum as strong as vaegir knights or something of that level.

Ow and i would love to see mamelukes use broad scimitars instead of morningstars and lances, and see swadian knights use lances (when mounted only tough) more.

this is what i base my imagination on (age of empires 2).
mameluke.jpg


So that the description of saranid swords starts to make sence.


(is there coming a mace nation soon 2 then?  :lol:)
 
@manekemaan: arabian swords were straight, not curved.

@0678 ... etc: no, it wouldn't. Why would they do that. China and Japan didn't interact with Europe until a long time after the M&B period.
 
socks 说:
@manekemaan: arabian swords were straight, not curved.

@0678 ... etc: no, it wouldn't. Why would they do that. China and Japan didn't interact with Europe until a long time after the M&B period.
...Magic.
(Prepares for the worst)
 
Lord Drake 说:
Only threat is their Mamluk, but if you have a few crossbows... :/

They eat my elite archers ALIVE!  the only good counter troops are swadian knights but they have a rather hefty price and are 10 times slower to promote.

That is in the open field. In sieges they are pretty poor to be honest, you're right. They do have a tiny shield which somehow has a total body protection and their armour is not bad at all, it's brilliant.
 
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