What is your favorite Unit Composition ?

[Ghost_Rolly]

Sup guys, I'm wondering what you guys use as unit composition for each factions.
I usually play Swadia and a little bit of Rhodoks, and I want to try the Nords.

So basically I usually go with this troop composition :

Men-at-Arms x40
Dhirim Captain x20
Jelkalan Shooter x30

Total : 100 troops.
Wages : 4000-5000 denars (depends on upgrade).

I can cope with about any Lords with up to 300 troops without suffering more than 10 death and 20 knocked out.
That's with 8 Surgery. Apart from Khergits with their kamikaze lancers that take down my troops and then get raped.

With this unit composition you can take down anything. Especially with the Jelkalan Shooter, really good in siege with their Sharpshooter trait (+50% accuracy) and with their Devoted Trait (-50% wages), it makes them perfect to have and for such little investment.

On the battlefield, the main tactic would be to assign Man-at-Arms as group #4 named Man-at-Arms and leave the Dhirim Captain as Cavalry.
Ask them to follow you and when closing in, ask the Men-at-Arms to charge and Dhirim Captains to keep following you. Go behind the enemy with your Dhirim Captains and then charge them from behind. Then press 4 to select Men-at-Arms, then F5 > F5, so you force them to drop their lances in favor of Swords because of the cluster **** they're gonna be in. This tactic ensures 40% prisonners pretty much all the time and against bandits you can just use your Dhirim Captains who are like the Manhunters on steroids of Silverstag. So even if it costs about 5k in wages when all troops are fully upgraded, it's WELL worth it if you can make enough money out of prisonners and loot.

Don't forget to upgrade atleast one Dhirim Captain to Elite as they add +20% damage to all troops around them wich is huge.

And you, what are you best unit composition ?

 

[Huillam]

Stacking as many archers as possible used to turn every battle into a cakewalk.
I'll have to check soon if it's still the case.

 

[Leifdin]

WHen I play Swadia I go either pure cavalry or 50/50 on infantry/archers. I usually move with 70-120 cavalrymen and infantry army has usually 180-250 men. Cavalry is great for field battles but sucks at sieges. Infantry/archers is overall good and more efficient than cavalry. A/I army usually costs something around 4000-6000 iirc and wrecks armies of double/triple size almost without losses. I usually switch between cavalry and infantry, depends on whether I am on campaign or I am travelling around trading.

With Nords I do the A/I in same fashion as with Swadia.

 

[WizardOfAtlantis]

I prefer a 50/50 ratio of Infantry and Archers in just about every army I go in for (which is usually Rhodok, Nord and Vaegir), with (maybe) some cavalry to spice it up a bit, but just a bit. Sometimes the Rhodok ratio can go as high as 2 to 1 for Archer to Infantry, but since I've made some very small tweaks to their equipment as described in another thread, the Rhodok infantry don't die off like flies, and so the ratio stays closer to 1 to 1 now as I've intended in recruitment.

There's just something symbolic about arrows/bolts flying overhead with infantry in the front that just seems too "right" for me to not compose my armies that way.

 

[Leifdin]

There's just something symbolic about arrows/bolts flying overhead with infantry in the front that just seems too "right" for me to not compose my armies that way.

It's also more interesting imho, with pure cavalry you just go charge. With this, you need to position yourself etc.

 

[Grossen]

I prefer a 50/50 ratio of Infantry and Archers in just about every army I go in for (which is usually Rhodok, Nord and Vaegir), with (maybe) some cavalry to spice it up a bit, but just a bit. Sometimes the Rhodok ratio can go as high as 2 to 1 for Archer to Infantry, but since I've made some very small tweaks to their equipment as described in another thread, the Rhodok infantry don't die off like flies, and so the ratio stays closer to 1 to 1 now as I've intended in recruitment.

There's just something symbolic about arrows/bolts flying overhead with infantry in the front that just seems too "right" for me to not compose my armies that way.

Can you give us the link to your Rhodoks fix? How can we use it? I would really want to make fighting them more of a challenge!

 

[braingamer]

I've been using Swadian Footmen and Swadian Mercenaries for sieging, with a few supply runners on the side. I tend to treat them as expendable, but any elites get disbanded for veteran recruits.
My main force for in the field is 130-odd Praven Knights. I should mix in some Dhirim Captains, but haven't got around to it yet. My companions are all outfitted as knights, and I either use a lance, sword, and shield, or pull out my bow and do horse archery.

 

[WizardOfAtlantis]

Can you give us the link to your Rhodoks fix? How can we use it? I would really want to make fighting them more of a challenge!

I used Morgh's Editor to add in a couple of weapons. Have you ever used it? It's very easy.

 

[Michael1]

Personally I usually use a force of about 15-20 infantry and the rest ranged units of some kind. I've been experimenting with placing a line of javelins behind my infantry then a line of archers or crossbows behind them to inflict maximum damage,which seems to work reasonably well.

 

[Lord Westrum III]

50% huscarl, 50% skirmisher. Nordic power!

 

[Grossen]

Epic win composition, congratulation now no one can stop you. Trough I doubt you can afford that combo for larger armies(80+).

 

[Leifdin]

I don't think you really need larger armies with that composition

 

[Grossen]

He can still lose if he fights 500 units armies i guess...

 

[Falconian]

========== <-- Huscarls
========== <-- Godi
|||||||||||||||||||| <-- Companions/pikemen with long pikes/halberds

^^^^^^^^^^^ <-- Archers


If enemy has no cav, I move archers to wings.
If enemy has cav, I move archers close to pikes, or in-between pikes and Godi.

 

[hugeknight]

I personally prefer to use a 25-50 cav and 100+ archers/crossbow units i love crossbow units because they fire slower so their ammo lasts more.


^^^^^^^^^^^^ cav
============= archers (firing in volley)

 

[Leifdin]

I have a good one:
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*-rhodok halberdiers
|-rhodok highland pikemen

 

[WizardOfAtlantis]

I have a good one:
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*-rhodok halberdiers
|-rhodok highland pikemen

A Rhodok what's-this-now with highland pikemen??

 

[hugeknight]

I have a good one:
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*-rhodok halberdiers
|-rhodok highland pikemen

this makes a good siege formation but lacks shields but i like it they would definitely destroy cavalry

 

[Leifdin]

Just kidding, Rhodok infantry is powerful but not that much. (They can beat Nordic Huscarls if they outnumber them 2 to 1). They still need ranged support. 50/50 in I/A seems to be optimal way to fight.

 

[BurgherKing]

I have been playing Nord lately so I usually aim for 50/50 infantryman/archer mix. I will add some cavalry fodder to the mix. I'd say only about 25% total force max, when facing Khergits and Swadians because having cavalry units to tie up enemy cavalry and archers makes things much easier.