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What is the -security of "renowned marksmen" and similar perks supposed to convey to me? Security questions

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Ananda_The_Destroyer

Master Knight
So while furnishing a new town I'm trying to get a good security rating while not over blowing the town's budget. I'm finding the tool tip for security to be very annoying as it shows -security and I really want to know what it's trying to say.
Here with 190 xbow men I'm getting - read out from renowned marksman
While this security is fine, I would actually like to have it stay in the slight positive as I globe trot. Now it gets weird with trying to add more troops.
Adding just another 30 khuzait raiders into it gives me a nice positive net
But why? What is the UI trying to tell me, is garrison too small for the perk to work, or you need a certain amount of ranged troops or it is negative?

A fallow up question, does anyone know the actual security value of each tier of troop? Too me it looks like it's just each tier =1, is that so?

What I'm trying to figure out is it better to use renowned marksmen or the alt perk that give -20% ranged garrison pay, if my goal is just to have security without spending too much.
 

Monkey

Regular
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Aren't Khuzait raiders tier 3? Maybe Renowned Marksmen has to do with the average tier of the stationed ranged troops? It's a pure guess, though.
 

Ananda_The_Destroyer

Master Knight
Hello, are you on beta or live branch?
This thread was about a 1.5.7 Beta game observation. I read patch notes that it was fixed in 1.5.8 beta. It is still showing a similar - reading in 1.5.7 stable game. Is there ever a situation where the perks should be showing a - security? I made this thread because I wasn't sure if this was a bug or if perhaps it was negative below a threshold of the related troop type in the garrison.
 

beybi123

Developer
This was a bug and also happened for other security related perks. I believe all of them are fixed in 1.5.8. I'm not sure about 1.5.7.
 
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