What has happened to MP respect?
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Rippost
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Yea, i quickly found out that the clanned guys are usually the coolest, just so long as we don't get any new "uber elitist" clans sprouting up.
One of the most annoying things to me is when people who are doing relatively well say stuff like "why is everyone on my team ****" and "god my team suckz balls". We [HGN] had this happen in our ctf server, and for some reason, he blamed the fact that his team was losing on everyone BUT him. Granted he was doing well, but if your teams losing, its partly your fault. Or at least it was in this case
One of the most annoying things to me is when people who are doing relatively well say stuff like "why is everyone on my team ****" and "god my team suckz balls". We [HGN] had this happen in our ctf server, and for some reason, he blamed the fact that his team was losing on everyone BUT him. Granted he was doing well, but if your teams losing, its partly your fault. Or at least it was in this case
Rippost 说:Yea, i quickly found out that the clanned guys are usually the coolest, just so long as we don't get any new "uber elitist" clans sprouting up.
One of the most annoying things to me is when people who are doing relatively well say stuff like "why is everyone on my team ****" and "god my team suckz balls". We [HGN] had this happen in our ctf server, and for some reason, he blamed the fact that his team was losing on everyone BUT him. Granted he was doing well, but if your teams losing, its partly your fault. Or at least it was in this case
Bull****, you cant do **** when your team is losing. Even with great score, you very rarely see person who can finish off people 1vs6.
A bad team won't win. If you're on a bad team, you get part of the blame. You can be as skilled in combat as you like, but it won't matter when your teammates are running around in circles while the enemy nabs your flag and no one is communicating.
The best first step is getting players to call out enemy positions. From there, all tactics come.
The best first step is getting players to call out enemy positions. From there, all tactics come.
Rippost
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I understand, im just trying to say that it was his fault for not attempting in any way to try to orginize and win, he just wanted to beat us with his uber gaming skills. (and yes, i check our logs afterward to see if he atempted to orginize in teamchat)
Should've made that clearer
Should've made that clearer
I can't say anything about the beta since I didn't take part in it. However, I've noticed that since the first few weeks after the release, the overall atmosphere in the servers has changed. Maybe it's just my imagination, but I can't honestly recall this much fighting over stupid things in the beginning of April when I started playing online.
I used to, due to outdated graphics card drivers, have a hard time reading what was being said in the chat in-game. But now when I'm able to read everything without bringing the chatlog up, I just feel like downgrading the drivers.
Of course it's far from everyone who gets in a fight. A vast majority of the players are friendly and get along just fine, but there's the odd bunch of assholes whose sole purpose of joining a server is to provoke people and then leave before they get banned, change name and return for some more.
I might just start playing with a pen and a sheet of paper next to my computer so I can take notes of everyone who's being an ass. Sherlock Holmes style, you know (the original one, not the Robert "I-kill-people-in-one-punch" Downey Jr one.) Then send it to the server admin and have them check the logs and decide what to do with the troublemakers. It's just that it'd require them to spend a lot of time on reading through the logs, although I guess it's in their interest to know who's being annoying to the rest of the players.
The thing is that this shouldn't be happening in the first place, because by the end of the day you've accomplished absolutely nothing no matter how many people you've upset in an online computer game.
I used to, due to outdated graphics card drivers, have a hard time reading what was being said in the chat in-game. But now when I'm able to read everything without bringing the chatlog up, I just feel like downgrading the drivers.
Of course it's far from everyone who gets in a fight. A vast majority of the players are friendly and get along just fine, but there's the odd bunch of assholes whose sole purpose of joining a server is to provoke people and then leave before they get banned, change name and return for some more.
I might just start playing with a pen and a sheet of paper next to my computer so I can take notes of everyone who's being an ass. Sherlock Holmes style, you know (the original one, not the Robert "I-kill-people-in-one-punch" Downey Jr one.) Then send it to the server admin and have them check the logs and decide what to do with the troublemakers. It's just that it'd require them to spend a lot of time on reading through the logs, although I guess it's in their interest to know who's being annoying to the rest of the players.
The thing is that this shouldn't be happening in the first place, because by the end of the day you've accomplished absolutely nothing no matter how many people you've upset in an online computer game.
Yeah I don't know why but there is often a big barrier in teams with many players in them. You have only a few who talk and listen to the others. The rest seems oblivious to the world and just charges in to die.Faranox 说:
When I was in siege(castle 3) someone shouted: "Everyone to the backdoor, The randomers will give us a good distraction!" People should talk more but less thrashtalking.
Often stuff goes wrong thanks to people doing stupid things which nearly kills the team for example.
On one of the new sieges there are 3 ladders close to eachother which you can all 3 use, Behind that is a huge fortress with the flag on top of it. I was playing as a Nord attacker and butcher quite a few veagirs, Lost my shield so I took a bardiche out of an opponent I just slayed. Rush to the next opponent to hit him in the back. Then all of the sudden a guy with a great axe slashes me from behind in a attempt to hit straight through me just so he can get that 1 measly kill.
Or the siege where the attackers start on a boat and we have to break down 3 doors, which is often very hard because archers can fire through that door. It was already started with 6 minutes left and I spawned. First I fell down a ladder because a archers was firing in the middle of the ladder and I tried to get passed him but was Kicked of because of the archer. Heavily damaged I got up and passed the broke down door along with some other people. A guy in the front (probably bored or something) started randomly swinging his axe around and hit me in the face killing me with it. He then proceeded without any care for the rest and damaged another player. they then started fighting eachother, And I had to come block there attacks. telling them to stop and kick them away from eachother before they finally stopped.
People are to eager to go for 1 single kill without a care for nothing but there own safety instead of the team.
Its very simple, in the beta we had a majority of nice, mature, and cool people playing, the community was great, we all had fun, and things were looking up.
Then the game released, and for some reason a huge flock of younger, immature, trollish players have all coem flooding in, and us, the good guys, are struggling to keep the game at the standard it should be.
I feel this problem is actually fatally serious for the MP life of the game.
One war of resolving TK: Auto kick, when you get -3 score, you are automatically kicked from the server.
How to deal with foul language and screaming children? nothing but the good old warn, kick, warn, ban really. Maybe we can be a bit stricter.
Then the game released, and for some reason a huge flock of younger, immature, trollish players have all coem flooding in, and us, the good guys, are struggling to keep the game at the standard it should be.
I feel this problem is actually fatally serious for the MP life of the game.
One war of resolving TK: Auto kick, when you get -3 score, you are automatically kicked from the server.
How to deal with foul language and screaming children? nothing but the good old warn, kick, warn, ban really. Maybe we can be a bit stricter.
Morii
Sergeant Knight
There was this guy named...'berke' on the KoS battleserver (I think it was that server). There was no admin on that server for pretty much the whole day, there was however a kick pol-possibility. That guy berke must have played on that same server almost the whole day (everytime I checked throughout the day, he was there), and got kicked with the poll for at least a 100 times for tk'ing! I'm not exagerating. This guy seemed to have so much fun playing and tk'ing that he did it for a whole day on the same server!
Now I'm not saying that this game isn't about having fun, because this guy obviously must have had fun. But come on people, is this what is going to happen to all servers where an admin isn't online??
Also, when playing on duel servers, there's always a randomer showing up every 15 minutes or so, it's not that weird, some people are annoying, some don't know the rules.
But lately they seem to come in groups of 5 or more at the same time..
I mean, do they keep in touch with each other? Do they say to each other 'lets screw that server up now'? Is there maybe a Randomers Clan now!?!?
Now I'm not saying that this game isn't about having fun, because this guy obviously must have had fun. But come on people, is this what is going to happen to all servers where an admin isn't online??
Also, when playing on duel servers, there's always a randomer showing up every 15 minutes or so, it's not that weird, some people are annoying, some don't know the rules.
But lately they seem to come in groups of 5 or more at the same time..
I mean, do they keep in touch with each other? Do they say to each other 'lets screw that server up now'? Is there maybe a Randomers Clan now!?!?
Tell me about it. I almost wish they'd remove the option to spawn as cavalry for the defenders and had sally ports auto-close behind the idiots who decide to wander off and leave them open.killer-blead 说:
Either that, or just auto-kill any defender outside of the walls.
Sir Gowe 说:
Ooh, maybe they'll read the messages I left when the sever was empty
.Anyway, I have a tendency to rage when people are opening the doors on a siege map, but that's really the only time. Other times I'm just joking around or asking/answering legitimate questions. Although, when people are flaming others (like the recent BKS hate) I tend to open-fire with my anti-troll guns.
Hamelech
Sergeant Knight
Kittenhuffer 说:
Please do this... there is now a section on ndition.net for complaints against players who were offensive or randomed before an admin could get them. Please report any offensive language/ bad behaviour you see
Would be extra helpful if you could get a time/date/reason.In general, I didn't play the beta so I don't know what the community was like then, but it sounds good. However, nditions duel server is generally very good for atmosphere, because we have a lot of admins who are on a lot of the time, and a ban list a mile long. If someone is rude on your server = ban time.
We just need to move on. The beta days aren't coming back, so we'll just have to live with these people.
PS: i didn't know we GL's had hate directed towards us. Did we do something wrong?
PS: i didn't know we GL's had hate directed towards us. Did we do something wrong?
I kinda wish our two clans could get along better. No one seems to want to let go of past misgivings though.Sir Gowe 说:
