I am dreadfully sorry if this type of topic have already been discussed. If it have then please provide me with a link or a kick in the but, and I'll delete the topic.
My real question is, was there really any medieval "way of war" that could smash the Parthian Tactics (sorry if I'm wrong, what I mean is ride in circles and fire at enemy, hit and run, and other effective uses of horsearchery, like the Huns and Mongols and probably some other people used).
The way I see it its pretty damn good!
The only drawback would be:
Hard to make insane bows (yes, it was hard to make the type of bows the Mongols used)
Lots of training (then again, the Mongols and other steppenomads basically grew up in the saddle)
Lots of horses.
So.. How effective was this type of warfare? Did the Europeans really have a "cure" for it?
As far as I remember, the "horde" campaigns from the east was ended in such ways:
Attila the Hun: (quote from Wikipedia) "Attila was succeeded by his eldest son, Ellak. However, Attila's other sons, Dengizich and Ernakh challenged Ellak for the throne. Taking advantage of the situation, subjugated tribes rose up in rebellion. The year after Attila's death, the Huns were defeated in the Battle of Nedao. In 469, Dengizik, the last Hunnic King and successor of Ellak, died. This date is seen as the end of the Hunnic Empire. It is believed by some historians that descendants of the Huns formed the Bulgarian Empire, which stretched over the Balkans, Pannonia and Scythia."
Gengis Khan: (again, quote from Wikipedia) "With the death of Abu Said Bahatur Khan in 1335, the Mongol rule in Persia fell into political anarchy. A year later his successor was killed by an Oirat governor and the Ilkhanate was divided between the Suldus, the Jalayir, Qasarid Togha Temür (d.1353) and Persian warlords. Using the dissolution, the Georgians had already pushed out the Mongols when Uyghur commander Eretna established an independent state in Anatolia in 1336. Following the downfall of their Mongol masters, all-time loyal vassal Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia was threatened by the Mamluks more. Alongside the lost of Mongol colony in Persia, Mongol rulers of the Yuan and Chagatai Khanate were in a turmoil so deep that it threatened continuation of their power. Much fear arose outside the Mongol court. The Black Death began in the densely inhabited Mongol dominions from 1313 to 1331. This disastrous plague devastated all khanates, cutting off commercial ties and killing off millions. By the end of the 14th century, it may have taken 70-100 million lives of Africa, Asia and Europe."
As far as I can see, the "horde" campaigns were not beaten on the battlefield, but by powerstruggle.
So, again I ask, did the Europeans (or Asians) have any way of effectively beating them on the battlefield?
My real question is, was there really any medieval "way of war" that could smash the Parthian Tactics (sorry if I'm wrong, what I mean is ride in circles and fire at enemy, hit and run, and other effective uses of horsearchery, like the Huns and Mongols and probably some other people used).
The way I see it its pretty damn good!
The only drawback would be:
Hard to make insane bows (yes, it was hard to make the type of bows the Mongols used)
Lots of training (then again, the Mongols and other steppenomads basically grew up in the saddle)
Lots of horses.
So.. How effective was this type of warfare? Did the Europeans really have a "cure" for it?
As far as I remember, the "horde" campaigns from the east was ended in such ways:
Attila the Hun: (quote from Wikipedia) "Attila was succeeded by his eldest son, Ellak. However, Attila's other sons, Dengizich and Ernakh challenged Ellak for the throne. Taking advantage of the situation, subjugated tribes rose up in rebellion. The year after Attila's death, the Huns were defeated in the Battle of Nedao. In 469, Dengizik, the last Hunnic King and successor of Ellak, died. This date is seen as the end of the Hunnic Empire. It is believed by some historians that descendants of the Huns formed the Bulgarian Empire, which stretched over the Balkans, Pannonia and Scythia."
Gengis Khan: (again, quote from Wikipedia) "With the death of Abu Said Bahatur Khan in 1335, the Mongol rule in Persia fell into political anarchy. A year later his successor was killed by an Oirat governor and the Ilkhanate was divided between the Suldus, the Jalayir, Qasarid Togha Temür (d.1353) and Persian warlords. Using the dissolution, the Georgians had already pushed out the Mongols when Uyghur commander Eretna established an independent state in Anatolia in 1336. Following the downfall of their Mongol masters, all-time loyal vassal Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia was threatened by the Mamluks more. Alongside the lost of Mongol colony in Persia, Mongol rulers of the Yuan and Chagatai Khanate were in a turmoil so deep that it threatened continuation of their power. Much fear arose outside the Mongol court. The Black Death began in the densely inhabited Mongol dominions from 1313 to 1331. This disastrous plague devastated all khanates, cutting off commercial ties and killing off millions. By the end of the 14th century, it may have taken 70-100 million lives of Africa, Asia and Europe."
As far as I can see, the "horde" campaigns were not beaten on the battlefield, but by powerstruggle.
So, again I ask, did the Europeans (or Asians) have any way of effectively beating them on the battlefield?