SP Musket Era [WFaS] English Civil War

[NPC99]

Here they are. A part of Al Mansurs castle pack.

https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,193272.0.html

Here are some example photos.

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Thanks for the link. I wasn't aware that Almansur's OSP included map icons. The French & Dutch towns look great, I'm sure I'll implement a number of them - they are much lower poly meshes that the WFaS ones, which is a bonus.

 

[Dazzer]

I really wonder how are the german and dutch mercenaries going to look like. All I found were only some french ones

 

[AreJohn]

Would it be possible to make soldiers in battle walk rather than run?

The mod "Battle Of Europe" had a feature where you could toggle walk/run for yourself and the bots you commanded, worked quite nicely in bot battles in multiplayer.

 

[YourStepDad]

Will the royalists and some militiamen have longbows? There's been recorded usage of it, and I would love to see it in the game. Underpresented and there, but rare.

Granted, most households had it, and it was widely used for hunting and sports, even if less so for warfare. It would be perfect for it to be available for (certain) militias, in stores, on some companions(?) but most importantly, on bandits, so they can feel as least uniform as is possible.

Given the WFAS mercenary feature, I would love to be able to equip my men with longbows. Some Scottish mercenaries with them wouldn't hurt either.

Will there be a covenanter invasion as well?

 

[Black Watch 1745]

Will the royalists and some militiamen have longbows? There's been recorded usage of it, and I would love to see it in the game. Underpresented and there, but rare.

Granted, most households had it, and it was widely used for hunting and sports, even if less so for warfare. It would be perfect for it to be available for (certain) militias, in stores, on some companions(?) but most importantly, on bandits, so they can feel as least uniform as is possible.

Given the WFAS mercenary feature, I would love to be able to equip my men with longbows. Some Scottish mercenaries with them wouldn't hurt either.

Will there be a covenanter invasion as well?

NPC99 said this a few pages back:

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As the Royalists deployed at least one regiment of welsh  longbowmen, I've made a few available for their novelty value. Some wild highlanders continued to use bows and shields, but these are not widely used by my Covenanter forces.

  I would love to see a few historical figures as companions you can recruit. Captain Frances Dalziel, the illegitimate daughter of the Earl of Carnwath, would be interesting. Possibly a few others like Bernard de Gomme, a Dutch Engineer who served with Prince Rupert, would be good additions.

 

[NPC99]

I really wonder how are the german and dutch mercenaries going to look like. All I found were only some french ones

I'm spoilt for reiter uniforms in WFaS. Plus it has a german line pikeman and musketeer.
Here's three angles on ECW's Dutch Reiter mercenary

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Edit: Willhelm's Ultimate 17th Century pack includes the WFaS german line pikeman's texture. It's hooped sleeves won't come out on any of Willhelm's pikemen because he's using different coordinates, but the breastplate does. Bizarrely, you can see the hooped sleeves in the german_line_pike.dds by applying its material to one of Wilhelm's bare tunics.

 

[NPC99]

Will the royalists and some militiamen have longbows? There's been recorded usage of it, and I would love to see it in the game. Underpresented and there, but rare.

Granted, most households had it, and it was widely used for hunting and sports, even if less so for warfare. It would be perfect for it to be available for (certain) militias, in stores, on some companions(?) but most importantly, on bandits, so they can feel as least uniform as is possible.

Given the WFAS mercenary feature, I would love to be able to equip my men with longbows. Some Scottish mercenaries with them wouldn't hurt either.

Will there be a covenanter invasion as well?

Only Royalists can recruit Welsh longbowmen. A royalist player would need to speak to the garrison commander at either Chester, Worcester or Shrewsbury to enlist them.

 

[Dazzer]

Ah, so the reiter is just vanilla german reiter. I would suggest at least different German mercenary uniforms then. I have done some research and found some German mercenary musketeers pictures who fought for Polish commonwealth from 1633 or so, but they could be used for ECW aswell. I can post the pictures if you want?

 

[NPC99]

Ah, so the reiter is just vanilla german reiter. I would suggest at least different German mercenary uniforms then. I have done some research and found some German mercenary musketeers pictures who fought for Polish commonwealth from 1633 or so, but they could be used for ECW aswell. I can post the pictures if you want?

Thanks. Any reference material is useful. They may not make it into the alpha version, but I'm sure I'll have to make some uniforms less generic thereafter. For example my Royalist Landsknecht Swordsman probably looks more English than German currently. It was included for balance vs claymore wielding Scots and Redshanks swordsmen.

 

[YourStepDad]

Will there be cuirassiers in full three quarters armors?

You know, Haselrigg's regiment of cuirassiers? Wearing mostly open lobster pots as helmets rather than closed helmets though, though having a splendorous closed helmet or two would not be a bad thing. I suppose their equipment does not really have to be uniform.

 

[Dazzer]

Ah, so the reiter is just vanilla german reiter. I would suggest at least different German mercenary uniforms then. I have done some research and found some German mercenary musketeers pictures who fought for Polish commonwealth from 1633 or so, but they could be used for ECW aswell. I can post the pictures if you want?

Thanks. Any reference material is useful. They may not make it into the alpha version, but I'm sure I'll have to make some uniforms less generic thereafter. For example my Royalist Landsknecht Swordsman probably looks more English than German currently. It was included for balance vs claymore wielding Scots and Redshanks swordsmen.

Thats some interesting units you got there  Here it is, I couldnt find any sources on pikemen but I guess they would wear black aswell.

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https://www.google.com.tr/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Ff%2Ffd%2FPolish_soldiers_1633-1668.PNG%2F300px-Polish_soldiers_1633-1668.PNG&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fpl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPiechota_niemiecka&docid=WaptN-TefiKvYM&tbnid=VNVUdyDZM6sS0M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjVx_TJoebVAhVFlxoKHebDA4EQMwgvKAAwAA..i&w=300&h=229&client=ms-android-sonymobile&bih=496&biw=320&q=piechota%20niemiecka&ved=0ahUKEwjVx_TJoebVAhVFlxoKHebDA4EQMwgvKAAwAA&iact=mrc&uact=8.jpg
Its The musketeer on far left

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRqzo47JmDhEjH7P9CLdxt8N9yENnIAtShNvcE_JjhfWfQ6i91BU1XPD49W

 

[NPC99]

Will there be cuirassiers in full three quarters armors?

You know, Haselrigg's regiment of cuirassiers? Wearing mostly open lobster pots as helmets rather than closed helmets though, though having a splendorous closed helmet or two would not be a bad thing. I suppose their equipment does not really have to be uniform.

Yes, top tier cavalry are cuirassiers. Wearing WFaS black reiter style plate in a metal finish and mainly open burgonet helmets. I'm not a great fan of armets, although some have been retained in game.

For play balance purposes, my top tier royalist lifeguards are cuirassiers, rather than wearing the correct uniform described earlier by Black Watch 1745. It's not much fun to run into a party of deserters who are all royalist lifeguards.

 

[NPC99]

Ah, so the reiter is just vanilla german reiter. I would suggest at least different German mercenary uniforms then. I have done some research and found some German mercenary musketeers pictures who fought for Polish commonwealth from 1633 or so, but they could be used for ECW aswell. I can post the pictures if you want?

Thanks. Any reference material is useful. They may not make it into the alpha version, but I'm sure I'll have to make some uniforms less generic thereafter. For example my Royalist Landsknecht Swordsman probably looks more English than German currently. It was included for balance vs claymore wielding Scots and Redshanks swordsmen.

Thats some interesting units you got there  Here it is, I couldnt find any sources on pikemen but I guess they would wear black aswell.

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https://www.google.com.tr/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Ff%2Ffd%2FPolish_soldiers_1633-1668.PNG%2F300px-Polish_soldiers_1633-1668.PNG&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fpl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPiechota_niemiecka&docid=WaptN-TefiKvYM&tbnid=VNVUdyDZM6sS0M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjVx_TJoebVAhVFlxoKHebDA4EQMwgvKAAwAA..i&w=300&h=229&client=ms-android-sonymobile&bih=496&biw=320&q=piechota%20niemiecka&ved=0ahUKEwjVx_TJoebVAhVFlxoKHebDA4EQMwgvKAAwAA&iact=mrc&uact=8.jpg
Its The musketeer on far left

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRqzo47JmDhEjH7P9CLdxt8N9yENnIAtShNvcE_JjhfWfQ6i91BU1XPD49W

Thanks. Your first link was one of the longest I've seen. 
Black and yellow look fetching.

 

[Dazzer]

Ah, so the reiter is just vanilla german reiter. I would suggest at least different German mercenary uniforms then. I have done some research and found some German mercenary musketeers pictures who fought for Polish commonwealth from 1633 or so, but they could be used for ECW aswell. I can post the pictures if you want?

Thanks. Any reference material is useful. They may not make it into the alpha version, but I'm sure I'll have to make some uniforms less generic thereafter. For example my Royalist Landsknecht Swordsman probably looks more English than German currently. It was included for balance vs claymore wielding Scots and Redshanks swordsmen.

Thats some interesting units you got there  Here it is, I couldnt find any sources on pikemen but I guess they would wear black aswell.

Spoiler

https://www.google.com.tr/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Ff%2Ffd%2FPolish_soldiers_1633-1668.PNG%2F300px-Polish_soldiers_1633-1668.PNG&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fpl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPiechota_niemiecka&docid=WaptN-TefiKvYM&tbnid=VNVUdyDZM6sS0M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjVx_TJoebVAhVFlxoKHebDA4EQMwgvKAAwAA..i&w=300&h=229&client=ms-android-sonymobile&bih=496&biw=320&q=piechota%20niemiecka&ved=0ahUKEwjVx_TJoebVAhVFlxoKHebDA4EQMwgvKAAwAA&iact=mrc&uact=8.jpg
Its The musketeer on far left

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRqzo47JmDhEjH7P9CLdxt8N9yENnIAtShNvcE_JjhfWfQ6i91BU1XPD49W

Thanks. Your first link was one of the longest I've seen. 
Black and yellow look fetching.

Yes im on mobile and its really hard to post a picture here so i sent you link

 

[Marko͘]

Refreshing to see a new project for WFaS, and with such promising progress. Best of luck!

 

[NPC99]

Refreshing to see a new project for WFaS, and with such promising progress. Best of luck!

Thanks. The project started out as an excercise to learn about modding some time ago, but its addictive. I've got a number of playable versions at each of its evolutionary milestones. Unfortunately, mod changes always seem to destroy save game compatibility. Hopefully, it will play with the same level of stability on other people's PCs.

 

[NPC99]

  I would love to see a few historical figures as companions you can recruit. Captain Frances Dalziel, the illegitimate daughter of the Earl of Carnwath, would be interesting. Possibly a few others like Bernard de Gomme, a Dutch Engineer who served with Prince Rupert, would be good additions.

I haven't increased the number of WFaS companions. However, all but one of them have been changed. I didn't like most of their WFaS dialogue and equipment. The biggest effort in modding companions is getting the right dialogues.

Accordingly, I'm open to adding others if anyone wants to send me an acceptable and full set of dialogues.

Probably, I should make some companions refuse to join players of a hostile faction. I'll add that to my to do list.

 

[NPC99]

Border Reivers

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Lawlessness was curbed on the border of England and Scotland by King James I after his unification of those kingdoms. The Reiver families/clans were broken up with thousands forcibly transported to Ireland. However, on the outbreak of civil war brigandage returned, exploiting a lack of "joint commissions and justitiarie" who had policed the borders. These brigands included sons and grandsons of the original border reivers, but was nothing approaching a return to the institutionalised family/clan raiding system which blighted the previous century.

This mod includes these later day brigands. I have used poetic licence to retain the name border reivers and mount them as their forebears wearing some steel bonnets and jack of plate armours.

Moss troopers did not make an appearance in historical records until 1646. Many or most of these new brigands were disbanded or deserting Scottish soldiers, following defeats by Parliamentary forces and General Monck's occupation of Scotland. While exploiting the same countryside, they appear too late for a mod starting in 1642.

 

[YourStepDad]

I love you.

Those are the perfect brigands. Always wanted to see them. **** do they look good. Will they be seen around the English-Scottish border then, mostly?

By the way, although that Burgonet's model is slightly more fitting, have you considered adding these as OSP? https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,239116.60.html

Perhaps they could be made us of, sporadically here and there, or in shops. Maybe you could add a couple of such burgonets as variation alongside the present one, to make them look less uniform.

 

[NPC99]

I love you.

Those are the perfect brigands. Always wanted to see them. **** do they look good. Will they be seen around the English-Scottish border then, mostly?

By the way, although that Burgonet's model is slightly more fitting, have you considered adding these as OSP? https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,239116.60.html

Perhaps they could be made us of, sporadically here and there, or in shops. Maybe you could add a couple of such burgonets as variation alongside the present one, to make them look less uniform.

The reivers are based on the border, but with Warband/WFaS AI I've seen them range as far south as York. Some of them wear morions & felt hats.

I've included three of Jan Tumas's Sturmhaube burgonets (all metal finish as opposed to black or striped) in the mod. They're a bit up market for brigands - mainly worn by cuirassiers.