[Werewolf] Werewolf: Black Death - Daybreak Day 6 - Crypto-flagellants win!

Should I close the day with the votes that we had at the deadline (10PM), or leave it open for a few

  • Be strict, rules are rules, they had their chance. Close it.

    选票: 8 66.7%
  • Leave it open until midnight (two hours extra)

    选票: 1 8.3%
  • Leave it open until next morning when you wake up.

    选票: 0 0.0%
  • Leave it open and close it as soon as a majority is reached.

    选票: 3 25.0%

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Actually I didn't really forget. more so that I mentioned I was going to do it when I got back from work, then he quotes that very same post and removes where I said I was going to do and says I forgot to reply about it. It's practically the same as what you did before with my first post, where I specifically wrote I didn't read most of the thread and you responded with "HAVE YOU EVEN READ MY CAMPAIGNING ON DAY 1".
It's not super motivational if there is tons of stuff to read, but my own super small posts don't even get read.
Of course this does not justify my in activeness, and I will correct this.
 
Pharaoh X Llandy 说:
Yes, I know what you mean. But you're not above pointing out when other people make name slips or exclusions. You can't expect people to ignore it when you do it.

I'm not expecting anyone to ignore it - not sure where you are getting that from.


MaHuD 说:
Actually I didn't really forget. more so that I mentioned I was going to do it when I got back from work, then he quotes that very same post and removes where I said I was going to do and says I forgot to reply about it.

It wasn't clear what you were saying - you never said "Yes, I'll get around to answering that question you asked me, Llandy."
 
MaHuD 说:
Actually I didn't really forget. more so that I mentioned I was going to do it when I got back from work, then he quotes that very same post and removes where I said I was going to do and says I forgot to reply about it.

Is this the post you were referring to?

MaHuD 说:
Also, when back from work i'll look up quote from before night. (using phone right now.)

That was nearly thirty-six hours ago. I don't care if you're busy, I just want you to answer the question. Either you have some evidence of posts/behaviour of Melter hiding behind me to back up your claim, or you admit that you have nothing and stop trying to stall.

It's practically the same as what you did before with my first post, where I specifically wrote I didn't read most of the thread and you responded with "HAVE YOU EVEN READ MY CAMPAIGNING ON DAY 1".

Wrong. I responded with this (I have made the relevant part BIGGER TEXT so you can see what I really said):

Pharaoh X Llandy 说:
MaHuD 说:
It felt more like testing the waters for a possible quick revolution rather than hunting.

...Did you actually read the hunting and questioning either of us have done on Day 2 alone? I get the feeling you haven't read the hunting and questioning. I'm going to have to quote all our posts for you, aren't I?

Day 2. And when you posted your accusations against me + Melter "gathering companions to rush at Xardob", we were twenty-seven pages into Day 2. I don't give a damn that you didn't read Day 1, just like I dropped the "Hey Moss, did you read Day 1" stuff when Adaham said he'd told replacements they didn't have to, so don't try and make it sound like I'm the one on your case for not reading Day 1 because I made absolutely NO MENTION of this to you.

I mentioned Day 2. I presumed that when you started Melter and I were suspicious, you had at least read the twenty-seven pages of Day 2, or perhaps focused on Melter and I to be able to provide something more than "gathering companions to rush at Xardob" when you will CLEARLY see we did nothing of the sort, and in fact I was vocally opposed to lynching Xardob on Day 1 and very harshly critical of Sir Lynchalot when he rushed the vote like that.

So my post to you was about Day 2. A subtle pointing out that you were accusing me and Melter of being suspicious whilst apparently ignoring all of the questioning we'd been doing because MAYBE you hadn't actually read much of those 27 pages.

And then you went and claimed that Melter seemed to be hiding behind me a bit. Now, I might be CRAZY, but when I make an accusation against someone I at least make sure I try to back it up with quotes or links to examples of behaviour which I am pointing out and explanations about why it seems scummy. You twisted a bit of idle banter between me, Xardob and Melter into me + Melter trying to rush Xardob with votes (clearly not the case) and then claimed Melter was hiding behind me a bit and STILL not have answered my question from DAY TWO about where you thought he was doing this. And we're now on Day 3.

No more stalling, please. Answer the question. And get out of my room, sil vous plait.

It's not super motivational if there is tons of stuff to read, but my own super small posts don't even get read.

What? Your posts DO get read. In fact, the very topic which has sparked this current conversation is ONE OF YOUR POSTS. And then your failure to answer my question about your posts. And to prove that I do in fact read your posts, how come the first thing you questioned after Moss got stabbed is why I want to be on Watch, literally seven posts after I took a good 10 minutes to lay out exactly why I think I should be on Watch tonight?

So, to recap about the events of the past 12 hours which involve you:

- A room is destroyed
- An innocent special is stabbed with a knife
- You question my wanting to be on Watch
- You once again twist something I've said and try to make it sound more unfair than it is

Were you so afraid of implicating yourself in Moss' murder that you just thought you'd skip over it and stick with a "safe" subject?

Got any thoughts about who stabbed Moss and why? Anything at all to add?

Now, since you and Wolf were in the room with Lamb when he died last night, I assume you'll be lynching Wolf today? Since in this post here, you state that you believe wolves kill in their rooms because Adaham states it in the OP:

MaHuD 说:
@llandy, check first post of adaham.
I presume it also counts for the baddies.
As your role PM's stated hopefully clearly (maybe I forgot in some instances), your abilities do only work within the room you're in.
I have read that much atleast ! :razz:

And then in this next post, you further agree with the idea:

MaHuD 说:
In the last game with rooms, it was also only in the same room. But there was a teleporter that allowed it to happen elsewhere.

But wait a minute, on Day 2 you thought wolves could only kill in their own rooms, but on Day 3, with an innocent dead in your room, we should give both you AND wolf the benefit of the doubt??

MaHuD 说:
what about throwing me or wolf in the pillory and keeping the other one alone? We would know if theycan move during night or not.

Seriously? But you just said you think wolves can only kill in their own rooms. Besides, if we do have a teleporter like you say, what good will isolating one of you do?

How about we just lynch one of you? I don't have a clue what Wolf is doing or thinking right now, but your sudden request for leniency following Lamb's death IN YOUR ROOM is making you a pretty strong contender for Eternal in the lynching category, in my eyes.
 
He also has seemed to pay much less attention to things in general, so I am not sure he would have caught that, but I am no idea if that was just an act.


Llandy post - will read soon
 
MaHuD was just trying to discredit us because we are vocal/generally considered to be innocent-vibey and therefore a threat to his wolfship.
 
Phonemelter 说:
MaHuD was just trying to discredit us because we are vocal/generally considered to be innocent-vibey and therefore a threat to his wolfship.

I thought that was implicit in my big post.

I really have no idea what to do now. Wolf has been ringing furry alarm bells for me since Day 1 and if it weren't for the fact that MaHuD and Eternal are here I'd lynch him without hesitation. I wasn't uber-suspicious of Shatari even after looking back at his post history, but MaHuD just gives me bad vibes and he's my best bet for Moss-stabber. And then there's Eternal, who I've had conflicting feelings about all game, but did what I consider a very scummy thing in changing his mind within 20 minutes to lynch an innocent and "save himself" whilst simultaneously denying us the chance to talk about things.

It's so unfair that we only get one lynch per day. I will be writing a strongly worded letter to the managing director of this game forthwith  >:[
 
Pharaoh X Llandy 说:
I thought that was implicit in my big post.

It's a summary for the people who are tempted to "Skipped  :razz:" your post.  :wink:

I'm in the same boat as you (guess this means I am "hiding behind you"), but leaning towards MaHuD. Wolf seems too much like a puppy running around and being distracted by the new mechanics to be a wolf right now, and I think our best bet is going to be a person in the room with the dead.
 
Phonemelter 说:
It's a summary for the people who are tempted to "Skipped  :razz:" your post.  :wink:

Then your new job is to play in all the games I play in and summarise my posts for everyone. Do it will and I'll reduce your potatoeyness a power of one :razz:

I'm in the same boat as you (guess this means I am "hiding behind you"), but leaning towards MaHuD. Wolf seems too much like a puppy running around and being distracted by the new mechanics to be a wolf right now, and I think our best bet is going to be a person in the room with the dead.

Meh. I want it to be Wolf because if MaHuD is a wolf then that mean that Shatari was LYING when he said he was innocent, and IMO using the death of a relative as a way to gain sympathy around lying about your alignment is even lower than that "It would suck to be out of a game inspired by mine :sad:" boohoo-bull**** Whoopin pulled when he thought AW was going to knife him.

If MaHuD/Shatari actually is a wolf, then remind me to congratulate Adaham after the game ends on finding the most unscrupulous players in the whole of WW to put in his pack.

PS Vote Llandy 4 Watch.

 
Pharaoh X Llandy 说:
@ejnomad - has your opinion of Eternal changed any since yesterday?

Also, what do you think of my rooming suggestions?

Rooms? Sure go for it, but if someone special has a role that makes them need a room that's going to be a problem.

Eternal is a bad guy IMO.
 
BTW

Whoever killed Moss you make me :sad: .

But you make me :smile: because now I don't have to debate the crazy innocent.

So for you I give a :neutral:

And if nobody comes forward about it I fear we have a wolf that got a knife.
 
ejnomad 说:
And if nobody comes forward about it I fear we have a wolf that got a knife.

There's no doubt about it in my mind. Dead after he implied he had a special role which required him being in the Church. Not even AW's aim is that bad.
 
Spreadsheet updated again to show new room info and dead Moss:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jpHy_8oadtuzT8RG2eZm3HIk3JIF9V6TVZB5MybTho0/edit?usp=sharing
 
The first thing that came into my mind was that the one who used the knife was probably in a hurry to do this before we spread the way Llandy suggested. I think it was a baddie for two reasons:
1. why should someone do this shortly before we spread? There was no claim, therefore the person has no excuse for his action. Besides that the idea that the use of the knife is limited to the people you share the room with becomes logical.
2. why Moss? There's no further reason why an innocent should think he was a wolf and if there's a reason an innocent would bring it up.
I think we really have to work on our tactic and be a lot faster by spreading. Therefore I agree on every room suggestion as long as we just do it!
As other people are for sure more "proven" innocent than I am, I am fully willing to switch wherever the village thinks it's helpful.
 
Vote: Eternal

He's scum let's kill him. He hasn't bothered to come back and really explain himself either so I vote he dies.
 
Pharaoh X Llandy 说:
@Leprechaun, Snoopy, Twinkle, Xardob, Locke, Orj

Your thoughts about Moss being stabbed?
My thoughts on this will become extremely relevant once I've finished hunting.

Why?

I received the knife first thing this morning.

...and the first thing I did was hand it off to my current principal suspect, giving me a very good opportunity to see what they did with it.

So, let's see if they want to play. Anyone fancy owning up to the stabbing, and explaining why they did it? :twisted:

Pre-empting questions:

No, I'm not going to name them yet. I, and hence we, will get a LOT more from watching how they - and any potential remaining packmates - play from now on than by just steamrollering them straight to a lynch. There's also still the (very slim) outside chance that they are an innocent who made a bloody awful mistake.

Yes, AWdeV was telling the truth: you have to either use it or pass it on within 24 hours.

No, there's nothing in the PM that appears to restrict its use once I've passed it on.

Yes, it was a big risk, and yes, I'm fairly hacked off that they got our apparently most invulnerable player, but I don't think they necessarily knew he was a special. I made my choice well before Moss posted his Church claim, so it's feasible that they also rushed to take out an innocent/opposing scum given the sudden golden opportunity, and jumped before he claimed. I don't know that for sure, but I'll be bearing it in mind - it's worth remembering that the room-locker is still amongst us, so if the scum knew about it they could have just kept him out of the Church at their leisure following a claim. Unless whoever I gave the knife to is working independently of the room-locker... you get why I'm gonna watch this play out for a bit.

No, I'm not worried they'll try to silence me tonight. At the risk of the whole damn village going role-claim crazy, killing me won't stop the information getting out.

Yes, I deliberately acted without consulting the whole village on what I should do with the knife. We tried that with AWdeV and it got us nowhere. I decided to take a different tack.

Judge as you will, etc. We've nailed two wolves in two nights, so I felt like it was a good time to take a risk, while the scum are unsettled. It hasn't paid off as well as I'd hoped, because Moss could have been super useful in the late game, but he also seemed just a bit too suggestible (see the whole NoLynch thing for an example), so I'm not quite so heartbroken - having a manipulable player in our safest role could have bit us badly in the end. In the end, I'll take responsibility for this whole thing - I felt like I had form on wolf-guessing, having nailed Whoopin bang to rights on Day 1 and ending up lynching his packmate as my backup vote.

Also:
Lurker unvote: Eternal
Lynch vote: Eternal


I didn't give the knife to Eternal, but I'd sure as hell like to hear his explanation anyway. A bit of suitable pressure - whoever it was has convinced me that it'd actually suit him to be in the pillory rather than just dead. If this way gets a response out of him, I'll be happy with it.
 
Holy crap, Lep. You are indirectly responsible for a very valuable player being killed :neutral: Why didn't you give it to someone you trusted? There is no chance in hell that this was a mistake. Moss role-claimed and now he's dead. I don't have a problem with you acting without consulting the village, but the fact that you gave it to your primary suspect?!?

I bet Moss is making voodoo dolls of you right now.
 
Pharaoh X Llandy 说:
Holy crap, Lep. You are indirectly responsible for a very valuable player being killed :neutral: Why didn't you give it to someone you trusted? There is no chance in hell that this was a mistake. Moss role-claimed and now he's dead. I don't have a problem with you acting without consulting the village, but the fact that you gave it to your primary suspect?!?
Because if I just gave it to you or bloody Melter, it wouldn't tell me anything. Giving it do them most certainly did, even if it didn't work out *quiiiiite* how I wanted.

And yes. I know. Sorry, and all that.
 
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