[Werewolf] - The Most Dangerous Game (Recruitment)
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Adaham 说:
Cool. Though it doesn't swing enough for me.
Hey folks, got super hammered on Friday and spent yesterday being a giant nerd playing D&D.
Whoopin, Adaham, officially invited if you're ready for some non-stop, nail-biting, text based THROW DOWNS. Folding chairs as murder weapons are definitely on the cards.
Will work on finishing the roles, etc, tonight and should be ready to go soon.
People mind throwing in some votes for when they'd like to start and/or how many days heads up you'd like between the announcement and the game starting?
Whoopin, Adaham, officially invited if you're ready for some non-stop, nail-biting, text based THROW DOWNS. Folding chairs as murder weapons are definitely on the cards.
Will work on finishing the roles, etc, tonight and should be ready to go soon.
People mind throwing in some votes for when they'd like to start and/or how many days heads up you'd like between the announcement and the game starting?
Moss 说:
Not particularly bothered as I've already given notice of my upcoming absence. Whenever is good for you and everyone else.
Thanks for the props! These two downvotes were rather funny, as I had just uploaded the thing and wanted to copy the link, when I saw it had 7 views already, but also 2 thumbs down. While I'm not saying it's impossible somebody didn't like the clip, I was indeed a bit surprised. Looking at the sidebar, though, revealed to me that Youtube probably assumed my video would be about Gothic music in the metal sense, which it obviously isn't. My guess...two emos stumbled upon my video and were severely disappointed there was no black leather involved and downvoted it.Whoopin 说:
To your question, nope, I haven't. I haven't even been bothered to play the Super Mario Theme on a keyboard of my choice (as that's been quite the rage for the past 5 years or so). Would be interesting, though...
Well, this is where Adateacher kicks in. Firstly, I'd argue that this music swings quite a lot, only on a larger scale, so to speak. But I'll admit that if you haven't heard a lot of late 15th century music, it's a tricky style to get into. But what is most important - I had that discussion with my sisters as well - is that people seemingly expected a different type of music after the visual build-up. This is where I have to blame Hollywood for creating an illusion that whatever historical period would have a late symphonic sound. Either that, or silly minstrel-music a la "Brave Sir Robin". Far too often, the music in a historical movie would just break the immersion for me, rather than enhancing it, just because I know the different sound worlds of Europe of the last 1000 years or so pretty well by now.Pharaoh X Llandy 说:
Now this isn't about me being "right" and others "wrong" (albeit true), but what I'd like bring to the table, is that through visuals we can get a different approach to those old soundworlds, and conversely, those original soundworlds can help us to give a new meaning to the visuals we see.
And obviously this documentary is going to be more or less educational, so I don't pick just any music that sounds good, but all the music we played there is from around the building period of that organ +/- a century (which is already quite a big fluctuation). Playing the Beatles on such an instrument would diminish the instrument as much, as it would diminish the Beatles song. But playing real medieval music on it makes it awesome and sound at it's best.
Thanks, appreciate it! Sorry I didn't reply yet, had a busy weekend catching up on work. Will get to it soon.MaHuD 说:
How about...mmh....NOW!?Moss 说:
I meant swing as in the literal/technical sense, ie having swung quavers. Not that it isn't groovy or whatnot.
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If that doesn't explain it then it's basically the way in which quavers are syncopated in swing music so that instead of being straight (having an equal length), the first quaver of a pair is longer than the second.
Oh, so you do mean it in a literal (but musical) sense. Yeah, well...sorry, no swing performance practice in the middle ages. I should add, though, that a majority of medieval music is in one or another form of 3. So there's plenty of stuff that would sound swingy, just that it's notated that way, and not in straight notation and swingy-performance.
Which means you actually caught my bluff...the piece you hear in the trailer is actually early Renaissance and technically doesn't count as medieval/gothic anymore. I chose it because the sound of the pipe's you're hearing is pretty much from the 15th century, so that explains the choice. If you want to hear swingy medieval music, you best wait for the full documentary, in which my wife performs the oldest extant pieces of organ music (the oldest dating back to 1330). They sound pretty different than the piece in the trailer.
Which means you actually caught my bluff...the piece you hear in the trailer is actually early Renaissance and technically doesn't count as medieval/gothic anymore. I chose it because the sound of the pipe's you're hearing is pretty much from the 15th century, so that explains the choice. If you want to hear swingy medieval music, you best wait for the full documentary, in which my wife performs the oldest extant pieces of organ music (the oldest dating back to 1330). They sound pretty different than the piece in the trailer.
Adaham 说:
What about polyrhythms?
The big era of medieval polyrhythms is actually before writing down organ pieces became a fad. Maybe it was also considered to be too tricky for medieval organists to perform. If you take a look at medieval keyboards (the one in the trailer is far from medieval, it's actually from the late 19th century), you'll notice that supposedly easy medieval pieces become quite tricky, with keys being broader, narrower, deeper, whatever than normal keyboards would be. At the time when the first pieces were written down, most organs probably didn't even have a real keyboard, but "levers" that would be played like a carillon is played today.
You'd hit those levers with your fist (or maybe with at least 2 or 3 three fingers at a time), thus limiting the amount of virtuosity that could reasonably be performed on such keyboards.
@Host-Salami: I'll keep spamming this thread with medieval organ info until you start the game, m'kay?
@Host-Salami: I'll keep spamming this thread with medieval organ info until you start the game, m'kay?
Yeah, I find playing in three-time to be easier than four-time. For example, I polay most waltzes better than most rock.
Adaham 说:
Go for it man, this is easily my favourite thread derailment I've seen in recent years.
Was hoping to get things polished off today, but work happened. Was going to do it tonight, but too weirded out by work to think straight.
Will push to get stuff done tomorrow, have a free day and would like to get this rolling so I can turn my attentions back to prepping for my next DnD session. I'm fairly sure I'm going to make one of my players cry, so it should be a good one.
Haha, don't get me started on Aufführungspraxis. It's what kept me going for almost 10 years between 16 and 26. But after being confronted with so much dogma in that movement, I started hating it. Mind you, I'm still interested in performance practice, but I hated it when colleagues said something couldn't be done stylistically because they read it somewhere in a book. It gets stifling at some point. Not saying your aunt is like that, just putting it out there...Amontadillo 说:
BTW, I was really close to Bremen last week, played a concert in Ganderkesee on a beautiful Schnitger organ!
Playing in three is in fact easier than in four. The middle ages knew that already for a long time. Did you know that the "C" indicating the time signature 4/4 is in fact not a "C", but a broken circle? The middle ages also knew the full circle ("O") as a time signature, and that one was in three. It was called the "tempus perfectum", while the "C" was the "tempus imperfectum". There's some theological symbolism involved as well - obviously - as three is the divine number, and four is the human number.Pharaoh X Llandy 说:
Even when you leave theological considerations out of it, you'll notice that a lot of things we do naturally (like breathing) are in a 2:1 proportion (1 part breathing in, 2 parts breathing out). That alone is a good indicator why a rhythm in three will always feel more natural to us. Trying to keep up a good and steady 4 is always a lot more work.
Glad to be of assistance!Moss 说:
Looking forward to the start of this
Adaham 说:
I prefer a steady 21/8.
That's nothing else than a 7/8 subdivided in 3, therefore something that'll leave you with a prevalent feeling of 3. Even the 7/8 is usually some kind of subdivision of either 2+2+3 or 4+3, but one in which the 3 will always be responsible for the drive of the whole thing. In other words, it's easy to keep the 4 steady if it's always preceded (or followed) by a 3Phonemelter 说:I prefer a steady 21/8.
That's the smart approach. There is, in fact, a lot we can learn from Aufführungspraxis, lest we not forget that we're musicians, not scientists.Amontadillo 说:I believe she approaches it more in the vein of "look at all this cool stuff we can find out about how it used to be done" rather than "it was written on date x therefore has to be played in y way"
