[Werewolf] SMAC: Unity [Game ends!]
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I doubt it would be role related, Llandy. I think it was only a narrative device for Mahud. This is meant to be a standard game, right? I doubt we have anything fancy like that. Unless I'm misremembering. 
It makes sense that facemelter is deaded, unfortunately. He was one of the most vocal and one of the most villagery players yesterday (I think there was a consensus on this). Both of those reasons make for a convincing lunch, I'd imagine. Will have to look to see if there are any other possible connections that might have been reason for his death.
It makes sense that facemelter is deaded, unfortunately. He was one of the most vocal and one of the most villagery players yesterday (I think there was a consensus on this). Both of those reasons make for a convincing lunch, I'd imagine. Will have to look to see if there are any other possible connections that might have been reason for his death.
Vieira 说:I doubt it would be role related, Llandy. I think it was only a narrative device for Mahud. This is meant to be a standard game, right? I doubt we have anything fancy like that. Unless I'm misremembering.
Okay, I wasn't clear about what I meant.
If Melter was simply the narrative choice for picking up Eli's diary, and it was written this way by MaHuD after the wolves picked him to die, then that's one thing.
But if for some reason, be it roll of the die or role of Melter, he got the diary to read before the wolves killed him, as it seems to be implied by MaHuD's narrative of Melter starting to read the notebook, then it's possible that if this is true, Melter could have been given a clue prior to his death (ie, during the Night action stage) and possibly conveyed whatever clue he was given through this Wall thing that MaHuD's got going on.
And if that's the case, if we think it's the latter and can figure out which Wall post is Melter's, we might be able to find actual hints there from Eli's notebook.
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Okay, I'm done.
Okay, I'm done.
Pharaoh X Llandy 说:Vieira 说:I doubt it would be role related, Llandy. I think it was only a narrative device for Mahud. This is meant to be a standard game, right? I doubt we have anything fancy like that. Unless I'm misremembering.
Okay, I wasn't clear about what I meant.
If Melter was simply the narrative choice for picking up Eli's diary, and it was written this way by MaHuD after the wolves picked him to die, then that's one thing.
But if for some reason, be it roll of the die or role of Melter, he got the diary to read before the wolves killed him, as it seems to be implied by MaHuD's narrative of Melter starting to read the notebook, then it's possible that if this is true, Melter could have been given a clue prior to his death (ie, during the Night action stage) and possibly conveyed whatever clue he was given through this Wall thing that MaHuD's got going on.
And if that's the case, if we think it's the latter and can figure out which Wall post is Melter's, we might be able to find actual hints there from Eli's notebook.
You misunderstood me. I'm saying I don't think there is a notebook or anything. I think it was mentioned because when Eli died, Phonemelter got the diary in the narration. When Mahud saw that the wolves were going to kill him, he just felt that it would suit the narrative for that to seem like a reason for his death.
I don't think there is a notebook object or anything in the game that was given to nipplemelter to read or to give him a clue. I think it's purely flavour and coincidence (or maybe purposely chosen by the wolves to mislead early discussion).
So can we kill the obvious packmates Xardob and Pizza yet?
Vieira 说:
I'm not so sure. Your 'no notebook' suggestion would fit with MaHuD wanting this to be a simple game, but even if there is no notebook, the very fact that it was narrated as Melter picking it up could be a contributing factor to his death if the wolves thought the notebook actually existed.
Magorian Aximand 说:
What makes you think they're obvious packmates?
They way they behaved.
You'll get a full post about it soon. I'm just waking up and my brain is like mush...
You'll get a full post about it soon. I'm just waking up and my brain is like mush...
The important thing is that it's obvious and we should kill them.
Magorian Aximand 说:
Why is it that every time somebody insists that something is obvious and should be acted upon because of said obviousness, it has the effect of making me want to do the exact opposite?
Because "it's obvious" is an assertion devoid of compelling reasons, and is usually given as an excuse to avoid having to provide those compelling reasons which usually means they don't exist...
But like I said, I'll argue the point.
But like I said, I'll argue the point.
Magorian Aximand 说:
So, you have compelling reasons and you're willing to argue them, but you'd just prefer that people go along with your "its obvious" claim so that you don't actually have to argue the point?
'round page 68 or so. Basically when I last posted.Xardob 说:Where did you stop reading? I'd rather save some effort by not summarizing something you already read.Adaham 说:So...Xardob promised me a summary of what I've missed during my absence.
And no, I didn't use the long night to read up...
But maybe wait for Magorian's case on you and Pizza. Maybe that's convincing enough to rekindle my suspicion of you. I do remember that I still had you high on my list.
We can't say this is inaccurate, can we? Also, I'm sure MaHuD wanted to play around with me and build the suspense a little about my survival of the night.Pharaoh X Llandy 说:
Your case on me is already fragile enough. Don't make things even easier for me. Besides, I didn't think you'd have the guts to go after me after I just handed you a wolf on a silver plate.Magorian Aximand 说:
Which reminds me:
Soot, *highfive*
Your last post was back on page 53. Here's what happened of importance since then.Adaham 说:
Mag made a little wall about me, and I answered.
Llandy made a case against Soot.
Pizza and Soot did a little LoS. Pizza did another one later.
Llandy and Mag had a little war.
Vieira posted a LoS.
I started to organize the lynch and from them on we had a very fun chaotic lynch, that I can't hope to summarize. I'd advise you to read it from them on.
Also, if you want anything a bit more specific about anyone, I can give you links.
Xardob 说:
Definitely not. If there's one player who would be late due to oversleeping in bed, it would be you
@MaHoSt
Any word from Hawk? Or do I have to start making helicopter puns?
Oops, 15 pages difference in perception. God, you guys spam too much.Xardob 说:
Skipped, except for last summarizing paragraph.
Skipped. That quote-o-wot is worse than the worst of Phoney.
Skipped, except for summary in the end. Honestly, every WoT should have a TL;DR summary in the end. Appreciated!
Those are quite nicely formatted. Thx guys, I definitely have an impression where you guys were standing.
Skipped. That's a battlefield I can't attend to.
Yeah, I read the bit about myself. Strange he doesn't mention my awesome cases against Soot & Xardob. Because awesome.
Granted, I didn't read all the way up from there, but I must admit that the first few posts following your initial "ok, let's get organized" post leave me with a few impressions.
1) As much as it hurts me, Xardob is probably innocent. Since he's the master of facilitating random lynches, there'd be no point in sacrificing his own packmate like this on day 1. Since he's so random, he could have picked anybody, but it really looks like he was the first one to move things towards a serious lynch of Kronic. So yeah, either he's masterful, or innocent. In any case, off my hook for now.
2) Soot...when reading the posts Xardob quoted above, I took special care to look at Soot. I'm VERY sympathetic to Llandy making a case against Soot, but finally I also don't think it was quite as necessary for him to push Kronic that hard on day 1. Granted, he probably would have preferred to lynch me, but whatever ego drives him, he must know that lynching me on day 1 is very unlikely and - iirc - never happened before. Especially in light of my absence, it was not something that was very likely to happen, so that would have meant he would have had his packmate as a go-to lynch target for the whole day. Talk about playing fancy, but I don't see that happening.
Admitting these two things was rather big for me, so I guess it's back going to primal instincts. Magorian is much discussed, but I can't really get a villainous read on him. Pizza, I'm less sure about than I was earlier in the game. Finally, Vieira still gives me strange vibes. I mean, I know he disappeared in the past no matter his role, but this amount of activity (several WoT's from him, iirc) is very strange for him. So partially that must be him being a bit more serious about it, but I also think his enthusiasm is additionally curbed by his role.
The two big question marks that I'm left with are Hawk and Frisian, and to be honest, I'm more worried about Frisian than about Hawk.
If I'd have to guess right now, I'd say the remaining villains are Vieira and Frisian. But then again, I'm basically missing almost 40 pages worth of spam and I only skimmed over the posts above. So to make it short, I'm very curious to see what I'll be reading today and form my opinion based on that.
BTW, is there anybody who'd like to pick up the voting chart that Phoney usually keeps? It would be really handy to see yesterday's voting patterns now that we have a confirmed wolf.
