There's some history and humor you're missing there.
[Werewolf] SMAC: Unity [Game ends!]
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Humour for you, history for the rest of us -__-
But at least you've not got his posts on your ignore list now, that's bound to help.
But at least you've not got his posts on your ignore list now, that's bound to help.
SootShade 说:
I don't think I'd lynch any of those three today.
I'd consider Hawk and Eli, d2 at the earliest.
Adaham spewed himself villager pretty hard last game I played. I am watching for similar here and still not wolf reading him based on everything so far.
Hasn't strongly leaned villager yet, can reverse somewhat easily as the game unfolds, but proooobably not lynching Adaham before d3.
Pharaoh X Llandy 说:
Well...
Don't worry, I know I'm not performing impressive, but to me that's okay. If I were just lurking or a drop-out, that would be detrimental to the game, but I'm around and participating. I'm enjoying being part of it and that keeps it fun for me. As you know from the sign-up thread, I was already a bit worried about my performance this game because of my upcoming trip. But that was only part of it. I'm actually a bit tired of WW again, but rather than dropping out and disappearing like in the past (sorry again, Kronic), I decide to stick around and have fun. And you never know, if I live long enough, I might actually even contribute a bit to the team victory, albeit by putting my vote in the right place for once.Askthepizzaguy 说:
Basically I'd agree, but the last time he already played a pretty absent villager and wasn't hell bent on getting himself lynched. So while I understand where you're coming from,...Magorian Aximand 说:
I'm looking forward to that case. Also, make sure to present it with bravado. Nothing floats my boat as much as big egos slipping up when reading me.SootShade 说:
Note: This is not an attempt at starting another pseduo quote-war, but just my thoughts on the interaction with Pizzadude and why I am currently leaning towards him being a wolf. After this, I am going to hopefully focus on some other players, lest I end up tunneling him all day.
Post A
1. Quite a few reads based off "connections," some of which are quite irrelevant. Not inherently wolfy, but coming from a seasoned veteran, this is not what I would have expected.
Because the joke of "is that supposed to be different from other games? :þ " indicates innocent disconnection? Why not "wolf joking to another wolf" or just "wolf joking?"
Why does the response of "That's not even uniquely Xardob, that's just smart play in this game" indicates relevant disconnection?
Why is this "wolfy," when I would have thought this to be written off as a "disconnection?" You've said (or I would assume believe) that wolves are not likely to vote for their packies this early, and from the comment on Frisian that joking to another player seems like "disconnection," so what is the relevance here? Looks like an odd stretch of logic.
2. Oddly having (seemingly) higher standards for Llandy. Again, not clearly wolfy, but it is very odd from a player who has no meta knowledge.
Post B
Ignoring questions I had asked because he thinks my drunk posting was a farce and that I am hiding behind it, which has no relevance to the game. What exactly would I be trying to hide? What I was doing, engaging you in debate, was the exact opposite of "hiding." At no point did I ever say "ignore me, I'm just drunk" or use my inebriation to avoid anything - where is my "dishonestly?" If anything, I see this post as a way of "throwing up smoke" to avoid a response for whatever reason.
Post C
Claims my priorities are making serious arguments about game theory rather than "finding wolves," but I had already given my initial hunting thoughts and was continuing to hunt by engaging with him to get a better read. This is what I would call a "dishonest spin," if anything, especially since he seems to see the value of game theory in this later post.
Post D
1. Blatant misreading of what I actually said.
My comment:
I did not attack Pizzadude. I did not say his suspicion was invalid. All I did was make an observation and ask a harmless question. How he read that into my post, I have no idea.
Problems with Pizzadude: A Synopsis
by Face Melter (with a forward in v.2 from Eternal, author of "Melter Throughout the Ages")
by Face Melter (with a forward in v.2 from Eternal, author of "Melter Throughout the Ages")
Post A
1. Quite a few reads based off "connections," some of which are quite irrelevant. Not inherently wolfy, but coming from a seasoned veteran, this is not what I would have expected.
Because the joke of "is that supposed to be different from other games? :þ " indicates innocent disconnection? Why not "wolf joking to another wolf" or just "wolf joking?"
Why does the response of "That's not even uniquely Xardob, that's just smart play in this game" indicates relevant disconnection?
Why is this "wolfy," when I would have thought this to be written off as a "disconnection?" You've said (or I would assume believe) that wolves are not likely to vote for their packies this early, and from the comment on Frisian that joking to another player seems like "disconnection," so what is the relevance here? Looks like an odd stretch of logic.
2. Oddly having (seemingly) higher standards for Llandy. Again, not clearly wolfy, but it is very odd from a player who has no meta knowledge.
Post B
Ignoring questions I had asked because he thinks my drunk posting was a farce and that I am hiding behind it, which has no relevance to the game. What exactly would I be trying to hide? What I was doing, engaging you in debate, was the exact opposite of "hiding." At no point did I ever say "ignore me, I'm just drunk" or use my inebriation to avoid anything - where is my "dishonestly?" If anything, I see this post as a way of "throwing up smoke" to avoid a response for whatever reason.
Post C
Claims my priorities are making serious arguments about game theory rather than "finding wolves," but I had already given my initial hunting thoughts and was continuing to hunt by engaging with him to get a better read. This is what I would call a "dishonest spin," if anything, especially since he seems to see the value of game theory in this later post.
Post D
1. Blatant misreading of what I actually said.
My comment:
I did not attack Pizzadude. I did not say his suspicion was invalid. All I did was make an observation and ask a harmless question. How he read that into my post, I have no idea.
Laughing pretty hard at that post right now. But top notch formatting, due credit.
Spent so much time on the formatting he forgot to look villagery.
Spent so much time on the formatting he forgot to look villagery.
Yes, let the OMGUS flow through you.
Phonemelter 说:Yes, let the OMGUS flow through you.
That's great, for two reasons.
1) I am pretty sure I marked you off as a wolf first, and voted you first in spite of significant delay on my part voting wise.
2) OMGUS when used properly wrecks wolves.
Your post is written in such a way that it only intends to persuade undecideds to vote me, and makes zero villagery attempts at understanding.
I haven't even responded to your questions in that post because I know you're not interested in hearing the response. Those were rhetorical questions.
Askthepizzaguy 说:
Ugh. Thread devolves into a "he started it" argument, Pharaoh Llandy goes to get food to go with her whisky.
Back later.
My absence has been less an absence and more a perfectly-normal period of inactivity of less than a day. It just seems everyone else is moving a lot faster. Anyways, before I catch up on what I missed, I'll point out a couple interesting things I noticed about the LOS of one SootShade, who I also notice has thus far managed to successfully avoid being put under the lens in any significant way.
Soot's LoS here seems to play both sides of the argument developing between pizza and Face, with him getting "innocent vibes" from both of the participants (one of which, pizza, I find decidedly suspicious, but that is material for a more substantial post) and generally being noncommittal on anyone being wolfish save for Vieira and maybe Llandy, with some complaints regarding Magorian's posting style, which are then invalidated by a further post:
In which suspicion is now shifted onto Adaham. While there's some merit to the case against Adaham (and once more, that is material for a LoS of my own), in combination with the original LoS this just comes across as him covering all the bases so that his bandwagoning on a potential innocent lynch will have some background to it. Moreover, Soot seems to be content with contributing only these little jabs thus far, shoring up his own veneer of innocence while letting others do the "hunting" for him. It seems decidedly suspicious to me and I'd caution people to watch further input.
SootShade 说:
Soot's LoS here seems to play both sides of the argument developing between pizza and Face, with him getting "innocent vibes" from both of the participants (one of which, pizza, I find decidedly suspicious, but that is material for a more substantial post) and generally being noncommittal on anyone being wolfish save for Vieira and maybe Llandy, with some complaints regarding Magorian's posting style, which are then invalidated by a further post:
SootShade 说:
In which suspicion is now shifted onto Adaham. While there's some merit to the case against Adaham (and once more, that is material for a LoS of my own), in combination with the original LoS this just comes across as him covering all the bases so that his bandwagoning on a potential innocent lynch will have some background to it. Moreover, Soot seems to be content with contributing only these little jabs thus far, shoring up his own veneer of innocence while letting others do the "hunting" for him. It seems decidedly suspicious to me and I'd caution people to watch further input.
Pharaoh X Llandy 说:
Seems like an overreaction to someone incorrectly saying I used OMGUS on them.
Askthepizzaguy 说:
You really do have trouble handling my sarcasm.
No **** - the whole point of the game is to persuade people of your suspects.
And I've tried to understand you, but it doesn't help when instead of giving explanations you end up responding with "he's just a wolf, whatever."I am interested if you are willing to explain. And they are rhetorical, but I found worth thinking about.
There he is. Heeeeey buddy.
But Hawk doesn't try to kill either myself or Xardob. Definitely out of the ordinary. Must be a wolf. Can we lynch him now?
But Hawk doesn't try to kill either myself or Xardob. Definitely out of the ordinary. Must be a wolf. Can we lynch him now?
I'm just waiting for the day when you two are put in a pack together (granted that isn't this game).
Askthepizzaguy 说:
Take it from an uninvolved third party, it definitely came across as the start of the classic "he started it" kids gag
But you're right, as far as I remember. You did start to point out his wolfishness after some real time interaction with him, and not for "OMGUS" reasons at all.
Will review Melter's post plus the whole Melter/Pizza interactions when I return after food.
~Llandy, who was just putting her amazing phone on to charge and is really gone now
Phonemelter 说:I'm just waiting for the day when you two are put in a pack together (granted that isn't this game).
You would know, because he'd probably sell me out first.
Phonemelter 说:I'm just waiting for the day when you two are put in a pack together (granted that isn't this game).
This is something I fear greatly.
Phonemelter 说:
Nobody expects the pizza inquisition.
I posted my notes directly from my notepad. All this does is indicate the post I derived the lean from, it doesn't explain the lean.
You want me to explain the lean, I will, but you're just filling in the blanks with guesses right now.
Because the real time interaction counter-indicated interest in Wolf!Phone.
Essentially I read it as him being oblivious to you-Wolf, which slightly indicates villagery if you are indeed a wolf.
Again, copied directly from my notes. At the time I had a negligible villager lean on you because my strongest wolf read at the time was voting you. That quickly went to fecal matter as you began asserting yourself.
But at this time I don't think Wolf!Vieira voting you today very early indicates much about your alignment, particularly if Vieira moves that vote. Distancing is a lusty mistress, and I'm quite familiar with her, ahem, contours, shall we say.
Truncating this reply here. More to come.
