[Werewolf] SMAC: Unity [Game ends!]

[Phonemelter]

In more amusing news, I told my dad about how the game works, and showed him like, 2 pages, and he managed to call 2 out of the 3 wolves.

It seems like practically everyone did on Day 1 - quite a few had both Kronic and Soot listed as top wolf suspects.

 

[Magorian Aximand]

Is there a wolf quicktopic? I'd like to see how Llandy and Soot planned their interactions.

 

[Phonemelter]

That wasn't planned I don't think.

 

[Magorian Aximand]

I'm guessing there was some discussion about how to continue since Llandy had started on Soot already on day one.

 

[Pharaoh Llandy]

[me=Pharaoh X Llandy]high-fives Soot[/me]

The slip was not knowing what a worker was when you put that role in the opening post. Only a non worker could make that mistake.

Like MaHuD said, it wasn't a slip. MaHuD didn't put the fact that Melter was a worker into the post; he edited it in later. But I never actually went back to re-read it since no mention was made that the post had been updated with additional info. And that edit got over-written with a second edit which included the wall. Here is the original post from MaHuD:

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So whilst I (obviously) knew that Melter was innocent, I didn't know whether he was a special or a vanilla.

@Adaham - I am confused about your role; were you a GA/Herbalist or a Vig?

Also, can people please stop making me wolves now?

Is there a wolf quicktopic? I'd like to see how Llandy and Soot planned their interactions.

There is, but as MaHuD is the host I will wait for him to post it all official-like.

 

[Pharaoh Llandy]

Why no death the night before?

Oh, I chose to make a no-kill hoping that it would 1) make it look like somebody (possibly me) had been protected by a GA (also possibly me, in the event that the idea of me being protected failed), in the event that we had no GA, 2) cause a bit more confusion, 3) potentially force the game to end during the night phase which, whilst a bit of an anti-climax for the players, sounded safer to a lone drone in my position, as I had a lower chance of getting lynched with three other players still in the game rather than two.

 

[Adaham]

My role was "Sentinel", or something like that. It basically meant, that I could take down one person with me when being attacked at night. I could choose the person. For the last two nights I had Magorian as my target.

I think the no-kill was a major distraction and frankly, I think, it shouldn't be allowed to choose to no-kill (but that's not up to me, I know, just sayin'). It left me in the scenario that I was pretty convinced Llandy had protected herself somehow, as I knew I wasn't attacked because of my role. I didn't consider a no-kill as an option. So finally Magorian's story sounded feasible to me (Llandy being a third-party), yet at the same time I was still suspecting Magorian to be a wolf (because he acted so damn wolfish that even Vieira's dad couldn't help but think he was a wolf) who failed to kill Llandy last night.

So my plan of action was: target Magorian, because either he's the last wolf, or Llandy is a third party who just waits to be the sole survivor. As I assumed Magorian targeted Llandy last night and she was protected, I thought he'd try for me tonight. And if he didn't, nobody would die again and I'd consider Magorian cleared. The next day I would have voted Llandy.

OK, that's my train of thought. Good game over all, especially Llandy played her villain role masterfully as usual. Still think that the no-kill option was a bit of a game-breaker.

 

[Xardob]

Congratulations on a superb game, Llandy. I hope you realize I will never trust you again in a werewolf game, though.

 

[Adaham]

I hope you realize I will never trust you again in a werewolf game, though.

That's what people said after her first three games as a wolf 

 

[Pharaoh Llandy]

@Adaham

AFAIK, the possibility of "no action" for night roles has always been in the rules, I just took advantage of that. It was a gamble for me, but it paid off.

Also, I tried my hardest to do things that wolves shouldn't do: lynching all my packmates, clearing innocents, foregoing night kills. I hoped that it would rule me out as a wolf. Kinda worked.

@Xardob

Thanks but don't forget Soot, I couldn't have done any of this without him :b

 

[Pharaoh Llandy]

Also, I knew that just being a standard wolf wouldn't be good enough against players like Adaham and Magorian, some creative thinking was required to try and muddy the waters. Take it as a compliment Adaham that playing against you has forced me to up my wolfy game :b

 

[Xardob]

I hope you realize I will never trust you again in a werewolf game, though.

That's what people said after her first three games as a wolf 

I know, but one of those games I was her packmate and the other I was on a rival pack. I thought I was immune to her charms. Evidently not.

 

[Adaham]

I'm not saying you did anything wrong, Llandy, in fact you did everything quite masterfully. And while I don't recall the rules allowing no-actions at night, I usually discourage no-actions at night when hosting myself (I remember forcing Phoney quite strongly in Black Death to infest/infect every night). Basically I do that because I consider no-actions kinda cheating. It leads to people looking for loop-holes. Like single-villains that never ever kill anybody to appear like a standard innocent. So yeah, it makes it kinda impossible to figure things out for the village. The idea of Werewolf is that the village starts out uninformed and figures out the patterns as the game moves along. It's a race against time for both parties. No-actions really throw off that balance.

Just my 2 cents...

Also, I knew that just being a standard wolf wouldn't be good enough against players like Adaham and Magorian, some creative thinking was required to try and muddy the waters. Take it as a compliment Adaham that playing against you has forced me to up my wolfy game :b

Appreciate it. Even though you really fooled me big time, it's a world apart from our first encounter which ended in Gendergate and everybody accusing me of being rusty 

I know, but one of those games I was her packmate and the other I was on a rival pack. I thought I was immune to her charms. Evidently not.

The spammaster-thread has turned you blind on one eye 

 

[Troll]

@Xardob

Thanks but don't forget Soot, I couldn't have done any of this without him :b

Nah, I've got to admit that it was all you this game. I can't take credit for essentially planning to count on you to win from day one, even if I did at least set you up with Adaham (lucky that, I didn't guess his role or anything), it was just that your wolf play is too damn fantastic.

It was a tough game as long as I was in it, though. Got to say that I'm kinda dissapointed in myself for allowing myself to be lynched before the last day, as that's a first for me. Still, I prefer thinking it was just good villager play and not me being awful.

 

[Pharaoh Llandy]

No-action is point 6 under the General Gameplay and Etiquette in MaHuD's post. I think you took it out of Black Death, however Melter could have got around that by failing to submit an action by night deadline thus forfeiting his action. But you probably wouldn't have let him do that :p

 

[MaHuD]

You recognized the voice that spoke to all of you over the speakers as your boss Yang, the head of security.
That bastard never really liked you anyway. But you can rest assured, for you are the Sentinel, as a member of the security force you are always carrying your weapons around, even this time. No matter what happens, you will make damn sure that you won't die alone.

Just before you are killed (Be that at day or night), you may kill another player and take him or her with you in your death.
You may PM a player that you will 'set your sights on'. This player will die if you die. You can change this at any time simply by PMing me again, but you cannot do so when you are being killed or are dead already. The last person you 'set' will die.
it is advisable to 'set' a target just before the night or just before you are possibly lynched.

You win with the rest of the villagers/workers.

Please reply if you have read this PM and if you have any questions.

You are the Empath.
As an empath you can designate a time on every game-day, you will recieve the role of the first player that replies after that time. Essentially you are a seer but instead of being able to choose your target specifically, you prepare a 'trap' and the person 'caught' is seered.

For example; you choose the time of Thursday at 10 PM BST, whooping posts at 11 PM BST on thursday as the first to reply after and thus you would get his role.

Note that you can send me a PM with the designated time at any time during day-time. you don't have to do it at the start.
You win alongside the rest of the villagers/workers.

Please reply if you have read the message or havea question

Drone's lair: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/ECpwL3mWH7p

Ps: adaham's role contained a typo it should have been 'you may PM me'. but luckil6 I dont think he PMed anyone of you?

 

[Pharaoh Llandy]

Interesting take on the special roles, MaHuD! What would you have done if Frisian "trapped" the same player twice?

 

[MaHuD]

Thanks! I would have given the role again. That is bad luck. Or good luck in case of said person havinf changed roles in the meantime.

 

[Pharaoh Llandy]

Who were your targets on the other days, Adaham?

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

1615 onward, and latter half of D2 "worst villager play of all time". 

Couldn't get anyone to agree with me about Llandy, and after the bussings on D1 and D2 which made her look better than anyone else, I couldn't lynch her D3 onward.

Once no one is lynching the final wolf village loses, so D3 onward I predicted nothing but villager deaths.

The pairs analysis showed that Llandy wasn't looking for Soot's partner and that's the main reason why she felt like BS to me, and then of course there was the invented suspicions regarding after the fact justification, which everyone does.

All in all a poopy game by me, but no one was lynching Llandy and Eli was bussed hard, and when Llandy stopped trying to push Soot hard I felt something was incorrect.

She played a lot of people very well, and it was pointless for me to continue tilting at that windmill, wasnt ever going to happen this game.

So I looked for secondary targets and hoped I was wrong. That's what led me to Vieira as one of the only possibilities for Soot's partner, but then by D4 I decided that wasn't at all likely due to Vieira's tone.

Magorian was the only other person I could plausibly lynch. Adaham's tone was great under pressure from me so I was never lynching there, plus the way Soot went after him. Phone and Moustache were easy to clear, as was Hawk. Moustache clearing Xardob was elite, I liked that clear.

In general the game was frustrating to me because half of my team quit or didn't show up to play, or when they did their reads were nothing but inertia.

You should look at my theory about lynching the people who are not easy to lynch, it didn't fall out of the sky or get marked down on golden tablets no one was allowed to see and only I can translate.

But anyway. Good job wolves for finding most of the wolves, thanks for hosting MahuD, thanks for subbing Twinkle, thanks for your patience everyone else.

Well played Llandy and Soot.